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At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Makes perfect sense. I attack your country and kill 1200 people, and you airdrop me pallets of cash. Great deal.

IDF gunships killed 1000 of those people. Notwithstanding the previous 15 years' worth of provocation since the disengagement and withdrawal from Gaza. But my apologies, I have to consider your feelings when I think there are better alternatives to killing 300,000 people with bombs and starving another 1 million.

What is your actual point here?

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

#52

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Hamas is responsible for the 16k people killed, they: * Use their people as human shields. * Spent billions of dollars on aid to build "attack tunnels" and buy weapons rather than spend it on education, health care, diplomacy and a real defense force. * Broke the cease fire on October 7 by going on an ecstatic, orgy of violence against innocent people at a peace and love festival. * Failed to return the hostages and…

Irgun/Herut/Likud is just as guilty of all of these “charges”… I think you just lack the ability to rest the blame on Israel. They could have dropped cash over Gaza as reparations for the prior 75 years of genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_P...

Not sure if you're confused, acting in bad faith, or just don't know what genocide is OR Israel is just really bad at doing genocide?

Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was "correct" given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was "incorrect". The remainder were undecided or gave no answer.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palesti...

Now remember that figure was BEFORE the latest wave of violence, so just after October 7, apparently the majority of people in Palestine thought killing 1200 innocent civilians is ok? It seems like some level of self-defence is warranted given there is now more Palestinians than ever before who hate them?

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

#53

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IDF gunships killed 1000 of those people. Notwithstanding the previous 15 years' worth of provocation since the disengagement and withdrawal from Gaza. But my apologies, I have to consider your feelings when I think there are better alternatives to killing 300,000 people with bombs and starving another 1 million.

What is your actual point here?

Israel doesn't want to live peaceably with its neighbors. It only exists to kill for sport. Really betrays the whole "never again" message I grew up with.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

#54

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Irgun/Herut/Likud is just as guilty of all of these “charges”… I think you just lack the ability to rest the blame on Israel. They could have dropped cash over Gaza as reparations for the prior 75 years of genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_P... Not sure if you're confused, acting in bad faith, or just don't know what genocide is OR Israel is just really bad at doing genocide? Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was "correct" given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was "incorrect". The remainder were u…

Because Israel already inflicts the same exact type of violence onto them. Why do people magically forget 2018? 2014? Palestinians have the right to defend themselves, and especially the right to return to the land and property they were displaced from.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

#56

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The 75 years of genocide in which the Palestinian population increased tenfold?

You guys and your birthrate anxiety. How about not having kids at 40 lmao

Not sure where you're getting this impression. Neither side of this is having kids at 40

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Because it's Israel filling another country with small remote mines, not an "unfriendly" (to the US) country.

Isn't it attacking a militant group who killed 11 children a few months ago? 11 children murdered by Hezbollah at a soccer game? Do you think anyone will actual sympathize with them ? This is the nature of the game with these people, they're not an established military so what are you supposed to attack in order to stop your children being blown apart at a soccer game? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-28/golan-hei…

There is no proof that Lebanese Hezbollah was responsible for the Magdal Shams incident you are referring to, and all of the facts suggest that it was an accident. It happened during what was virtually a firefight.

The Magdal Shams is a village in the Golan heights, which is a Syrian area that is illegally occupied by Israel. At the very least, it is a huge leap of faith to assume that the families of the victims condemn Hezbollah or Israel or who they think is responsible.

Whatever your beliefs are, I suggest not jumping to conclusions so quickly, especially on such a complicated topic

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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How does this not violate Geneva Convention?

International law is quite literally a work of fiction. You can read the Geneva conventions and explore the implications of the rules in the imaginary world it sets up, but you have to understand that those rules are only valid inside of that imaginary world. None of it has any value in the real world, which is dictated by a different set of laws.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

#59

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Isn't it attacking a militant group who killed 11 children a few months ago? 11 children murdered by Hezbollah at a soccer game? Do you think anyone will actual sympathize with them ? This is the nature of the game with these people, they're not an established military so what are you supposed to attack in order to stop your children being blown apart at a soccer game? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-28/golan-hei…

There is no proof that Lebanese Hezbollah was responsible for the Magdal Shams incident you are referring to, and all of the facts suggest that it was an accident. It happened during what was virtually a firefight. The Magdal Shams is a village in the Golan heights, which is a Syrian area that is illegally occupied by Israel. At the very least, it is a huge leap of faith to assume that the families of the victims con…

Just accidentally blew up a soccer field ?

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Hamas is responsible for the 16k people killed, they: * Use their people as human shields. * Spent billions of dollars on aid to build "attack tunnels" and buy weapons rather than spend it on education, health care, diplomacy and a real defense force. * Broke the cease fire on October 7 by going on an ecstatic, orgy of violence against innocent people at a peace and love festival. * Failed to return the hostages and…

Spot on. Also the 16k number is reported by Hamas and is a propaganda number. The real count is closer to 2. Also, Hamas is responsible -- Israel has killed 0 civilians.

At one point I heard it was 48k, so who knows what the "Gaza Health Ministry" really knows.
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