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Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

viraptor wrote: post #40
bubblesnort wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate? I've just looked it up to see if things changed, but all I see is Ritalin / Concerta, Strattera, and Dextroamphetamine. There might be others, but they'd either be off-label or aren't reimbursed by insurance. Where in the world are other meds prescribed and covered?

On the non-stimulant side there's also atomoxetine and guanfacine, but they're not commonly used yet. And there's weed which is prescribed in some places. You can also find studies on other things which you can buy without prescription, but they're not officially approved / fully checked for safety.

atomoxetine, while not a direct stimulant, is a norepinepherine reuptake inhibitor. That is, it makes the speed you already have stay around longer.

And Guanfacine is certainly a stimulant. It is an agonist of the α2A-adrenergic receptor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanfacine

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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Post by rendx »

varispeed wrote: post #17

This kind of snake oil stuff should be illegal as it only enables abuse of people with such condition. I can easily picture this: "concerned relative / partner"> You could be much better if only you tried this person with condition> I have researched this, these things don't work, it is a waste of time and money. "concerned relative / partner"> No, you just don't want to get better! I am really losing patience with y…

Great if this happens, since it uncovers ongoing unhealthy relationship patterns, and makes them more visible. It does absolutely nothing to enable them.

To label it "abuse" immediately is modern, but not necessarily the most beneficial perspective if you want to grow with each other. You may also not always be in the position to choose who you interact with (e.g. relatives). Then you can still work on why (and how) you would care about _their_ problem, and not make it yours. Seems to be a confusion here about who has the "condition"/problem?

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

skywhopper wrote: post #38
bubblesnort wrote: post #6

The meds are basically speed. Epilepsy patients are told never to use speed, but then another doctor can diagnose AD(H)D and prescribe ritalin. I hope these new treatments work well, reduce side effects, and have less chance of interacting with other treatments.

You clearly don’t know much about the topic. There’s a huge variety of medications for ADHD. Some are classed as stimulants, but in many people with ADHD, it turns out that many stimulants actually provide a calming effect. If you take ADHD stimulant meds and get high, you probably don’t have ADHD. Also, not sure what epilepsy has to do with anything here.

People with ADHD and in a low energy state. By taking stimulants we can say it brings them up to a "normal" state. If they too more of the drug it will surly over stimulate the patient.

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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Post by viraptor »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #56
simplyinfinity wrote: post #18

I'm also going to stick to the meds, as they work very well for me, with that said tDCS seems to have some merit, according to research [0]. But there doesn't seem to be a lot of data with larger sample sizes yet. So this product doesn't completely strike me as snake oil, but i have my reservations until more data is available or at least FDA approved [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32418073/

You might want to know that ADHD meds may increase the risk of Parkinson's. This is something that needs to be spoken about more. https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-medications-parkinsons-dise... I have another comment here that explains how this may happen and why blasting EMFs in your brain will do the same thing. If I had ADHD the first thing I would try is B6 in the form of P5P: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2432…

It's fun to find grey/read links at random in these threads. B6 worked for me and adding B2 was also beneficial. But make sure to read about B6 toxicity as well. And you're going to freak out your doctor if you tell them.

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Post by lexicality »

lexicality wrote: post #59
dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>As someone with severe ADHD who has been repeatedly told they need to try everything that's not medication (so much CBT), Mind telling me what have you tried as far diet goes?

* cutting processed sugar: worked wonders, highly recommend * cutting general sugar (eg fruit): depression * cutting carbs: also depression * various oil suppliments: no change * CBD oil: less manic, no help with concentration, too expensive for the cost/benefit to be worth it

one other "diet" change - getting 8-9 hours of sleep a day so I can cut my caffeine intake to a cup of black tea in the morning and maybe one in the afternoon if I'm having a bad day.

I cannot overstate how good sleeping properly is. It does mean I need to be super careful with the meds so they're out of my body by the time I'm in bed, but a good night's sleep and some medical grade stimulants with a nice cup of tea is the best way I've found to have a productive day.

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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Post by dennis_jeeves2 »

lexicality wrote: post #59
dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>As someone with severe ADHD who has been repeatedly told they need to try everything that's not medication (so much CBT), Mind telling me what have you tried as far diet goes?

* cutting processed sugar: worked wonders, highly recommend * cutting general sugar (eg fruit): depression * cutting carbs: also depression * various oil suppliments: no change * CBD oil: less manic, no help with concentration, too expensive for the cost/benefit to be worth it

>cutting carbs: also depression

Did anybody give you tips on this? the depression generally lifts after 2 months. For most people it's around 2 weeks, but for stubborn cases it may take upto 2 month especially for women.

Anyway, I'm sure you are fed up hearing advise/tips, I'll leave it at that. If you think I may have something to offer (and I think I do) email me.

Ps: I'm fully cognizant that every person has their favorite diet/remedy, and I'm just another delusional individual who thinks I've (partially) figured it out).

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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Post by lexicality »

dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #66
lexicality wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* cutting processed sugar: worked wonders, highly recommend * cutting general sugar (eg fruit): depression * cutting carbs: also depression * various oil suppliments: no change * CBD oil: less manic, no help with concentration, too expensive for the cost/benefit to be worth it

>cutting carbs: also depression Did anybody give you tips on this? the depression generally lifts after 2 months. For most people it's around 2 weeks, but for stubborn cases it may take upto 2 month especially for women. Anyway, I'm sure you are fed up hearing advise/tips, I'll leave it at that. If you think I may have something to offer (and I think I do) email me. Ps: I'm fully cognizant that every person has their…

I dunno if anyone's ever told you this, but one of the symptoms of ADHD is executive dysfunction which causes extreme difficulty in dealing with deferred rewards, especially if discomfort is involved.

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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Post by viraptor »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #61
viraptor wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the non-stimulant side there's also atomoxetine and guanfacine, but they're not commonly used yet. And there's weed which is prescribed in some places. You can also find studies on other things which you can buy without prescription, but they're not officially approved / fully checked for safety.

atomoxetine, while not a direct stimulant, is a norepinepherine reuptake inhibitor. That is, it makes the speed you already have stay around longer. And Guanfacine is certainly a stimulant. It is an agonist of the α2A-adrenergic receptor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanfacine

Guanfacine is not a stimulant. The Wikipedia page doesn't say it explicitly but hints at that a number of times. It's spelled out here though https://www.nps.org.au/radar/articles/guanfacine-intuniv-for... DEA also doesn't care and https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=1c4... shows no potential for abuse and lethargy as common side effect. Also from experience - it doesn't feel even close to stimulants.

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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Post by robin_reala »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #56
simplyinfinity wrote: post #18

I'm also going to stick to the meds, as they work very well for me, with that said tDCS seems to have some merit, according to research [0]. But there doesn't seem to be a lot of data with larger sample sizes yet. So this product doesn't completely strike me as snake oil, but i have my reservations until more data is available or at least FDA approved [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32418073/

You might want to know that ADHD meds may increase the risk of Parkinson's. This is something that needs to be spoken about more. https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-medications-parkinsons-dise... I have another comment here that explains how this may happen and why blasting EMFs in your brain will do the same thing. If I had ADHD the first thing I would try is B6 in the form of P5P: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2432…

Sure, but:

The absolute risk of developing Parkinson’s, even for those treated with ADHD medication, remains very low – only eight or nine people in 100,000.

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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Post by JohnTHaller »

GrantMoyer wrote: post #35
lexicality wrote: post #5

As someone with severe ADHD who has been repeatedly told they need to try everything that's not medication (so much CBT), I am now deeply sceptical of every new supposed cure. A presumably extremely expensive headband that claims to be a "MRI in your pocket" and has an AI assistant to help you use it correctly seems like yet another scam preying on the disabled. I'll stick to the meds thanks.

CBT for ADHD!? Oh, that CBT.

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