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At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by robert_dipaolo »

bamboozled wrote: post #29
kgbcia wrote: post #25

It's weird how these headlines are written in the passive voice and as to blame Hezbollah. "At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon as Israel declares ‘new phase of war’ against Hezbollah" How about Israel detonates 3000 explosives in Lebanon.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for terrorists who's lives are spent working out how to murder and blow people up, then when they get blown up with minimal collateral damage caused, what? Honestly, I'm surprised at how great these people are at invoking emotional responses in their favor. It's incredible. They're certainly smashing the information war. When the 11 kids got actually blown up by a missile strike while at…

I think your first point could plausibly be made by either side, not just about this specific incident. I don't think killing people is ever a justifiable solution to any issue and almost always makes things worse.

I think, no matter who the perpetrator is, it's undeniable that exploding electrical items on this scale, is an act of terror and aggression.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by giladamar »

desdenova wrote: post #31
bamboozled wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for terrorists who's lives are spent working out how to murder and blow people up, then when they get blown up with minimal collateral damage caused, what? Honestly, I'm surprised at how great these people are at invoking emotional responses in their favor. It's incredible. They're certainly smashing the information war. When the 11 kids got actually blown up by a missile strike while at…

Israel are the terrorists. And linking to their propaganda, you're only showing how much you've been brainwashed by them.

Of course. YOUR news is always propaganda, MY news is always God's honest truth.

I'm sure al jazeera and electronic intifada have a cool disinterested view on the matter.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by toastercat »

bamboozled wrote: post #24
arresin wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“World you prefer they go and kill 16,000 civilians in carpet bombing in residential areas?! Ha didn’t think so!” https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-death-toll-ho...

Hamas is responsible for the 16k people killed, they: * Use their people as human shields. * Spent billions of dollars on aid to build "attack tunnels" and buy weapons rather than spend it on education, health care, diplomacy and a real defense force. * Broke the cease fire on October 7 by going on an ecstatic, orgy of violence against innocent people at a peace and love festival. * Failed to return the hostages and…

Spot on. Also the 16k number is reported by Hamas and is a propaganda number. The real count is closer to 2. Also, Hamas is responsible -- Israel has killed 0 civilians.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by toastercat »

giladamar wrote: post #34
limpbizkitfan wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irgun/Herut/Likud is just as guilty of all of these “charges”… I think you just lack the ability to rest the blame on Israel. They could have dropped cash over Gaza as reparations for the prior 75 years of genocide.

The 75 years of genocide in which the Palestinian population increased tenfold?

Yes.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by limpbizkitfan »

giladamar wrote: post #34
limpbizkitfan wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irgun/Herut/Likud is just as guilty of all of these “charges”… I think you just lack the ability to rest the blame on Israel. They could have dropped cash over Gaza as reparations for the prior 75 years of genocide.

The 75 years of genocide in which the Palestinian population increased tenfold?

You guys and your birthrate anxiety. How about not having kids at 40 lmao

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by moron123 »

desdenova wrote: post #31
bamboozled wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for terrorists who's lives are spent working out how to murder and blow people up, then when they get blown up with minimal collateral damage caused, what? Honestly, I'm surprised at how great these people are at invoking emotional responses in their favor. It's incredible. They're certainly smashing the information war. When the 11 kids got actually blown up by a missile strike while at…

Israel are the terrorists. And linking to their propaganda, you're only showing how much you've been brainwashed by them.

Let's get this straight.

When Israel executes an air strike to kill the terrorists that are killing their civilians for no reason, your lot howl at the moon about "indiscriminate" "disproportionate" "genocide".

But when Israel ingeniously figures out a way to detonate explosives only on the terrorists bodies, you call that indiscriminate too?

It's pretty obvious that you just hate Israel. No matter what Israel does, you will never be happy.

Israel is here to stay. When people like you make peace with that, we will be able to live in peace.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by moron123 »

limpbizkitfan wrote: post #26
bamboozled wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hamas is responsible for the 16k people killed, they: * Use their people as human shields. * Spent billions of dollars on aid to build "attack tunnels" and buy weapons rather than spend it on education, health care, diplomacy and a real defense force. * Broke the cease fire on October 7 by going on an ecstatic, orgy of violence against innocent people at a peace and love festival. * Failed to return the hostages and…

Irgun/Herut/Likud is just as guilty of all of these “charges”… I think you just lack the ability to rest the blame on Israel. They could have dropped cash over Gaza as reparations for the prior 75 years of genocide.

Makes perfect sense.

I attack your country and kill 1200 people, and you airdrop me pallets of cash.

Great deal.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by limpbizkitfan »

moron123 wrote: post #47
limpbizkitfan wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irgun/Herut/Likud is just as guilty of all of these “charges”… I think you just lack the ability to rest the blame on Israel. They could have dropped cash over Gaza as reparations for the prior 75 years of genocide.

Makes perfect sense. I attack your country and kill 1200 people, and you airdrop me pallets of cash. Great deal.

IDF gunships killed 1000 of those people. Notwithstanding the previous 15 years' worth of provocation since the disengagement and withdrawal from Gaza.

But my apologies, I have to consider your feelings when I think there are better alternatives to killing 300,000 people with bombs and starving another 1 million.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

inglor_cz wrote: post #30
arresin wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“World you prefer they go and kill 16,000 civilians in carpet bombing in residential areas?! Ha didn’t think so!” https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-death-toll-ho...

A lot more people died in the rubble of German cities during WWII and, except some German nationalists, no one gives a f_ck. Heck, the German far left sometimes taunts the right-wingers by screaming "Bomber Harris, do it again!" The reason is that they were our enemies. Edit: Can any of you downvoters explain to me how this isn't a case of blatant double standards? If someone hates the Nazis so much that civilians in…

A lot of us consider it good and just that the the Allies won WWII, despise the Nazis, and yet consider the civilian bombing to have been morally wrong.

But this is off topic. Criticism notwithstanding, Israel's attack is very cleverly designed to minimize civilian casualties. This is the opposite of carpet-bombing Beirut.

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