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Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

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This kind of snake oil stuff should be illegal as it only enables abuse of people with such condition. I can easily picture this: "concerned relative / partner"> You could be much better if only you tried this person with condition> I have researched this, these things don't work, it is a waste of time and money. "concerned relative / partner"> No, you just don't want to get better! I am really losing patience with y…

> No, you just don't want to get better! I am really losing patience with you. Why don't you want to get help!? I do not understand why people choose someone who says stuff like this as their partner.

Abusive relationships exist, also its not just grey and white. Oftentimes at the beginning of a relationship everything seems fine and happy but as time goes on the bad stuff shows up, one partner can't handle the others adhd sympoms and this kind of conversation can show up

Besides your parent mentioned relatives as well. You don't choose those

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

#42

As someone with severe ADHD who has been repeatedly told they need to try everything that's not medication (so much CBT), I am now deeply sceptical of every new supposed cure. A presumably extremely expensive headband that claims to be a "MRI in your pocket" and has an AI assistant to help you use it correctly seems like yet another scam preying on the disabled. I'll stick to the meds thanks.

CBT for ADHD!? Oh, that CBT.

I don't know why, but we have an off topic chat for our university computer science students - a field where there's a lot of autistic and adhd students, both diagnosed and undiagnosed - and God they're (or, we're) the kinkiest people I've met

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The meds are basically speed. There's a number of different stimulants and non-stimulants. "The meds" are not a thing.

Care to elaborate? I've just looked it up to see if things changed, but all I see is Ritalin / Concerta, Strattera, and Dextroamphetamine. There might be others, but they'd either be off-label or aren't reimbursed by insurance. Where in the world are other meds prescribed and covered?

All you see where?

Buproprion and clonidine are commonly prescribed for ADHD in the US.

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

#44

As someone with severe ADHD who has been repeatedly told they need to try everything that's not medication (so much CBT), I am now deeply sceptical of every new supposed cure. A presumably extremely expensive headband that claims to be a "MRI in your pocket" and has an AI assistant to help you use it correctly seems like yet another scam preying on the disabled. I'll stick to the meds thanks.

I wouldn’t call mine severe but I’ve had the same frustration. I swear it’s just lining me up for a cavalcade of techbro medical startups who have clearly found a scheme for making money through government, insurance, and desperate people.

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

#45
This is going to lead to horrible results.

Note the link between ADHD and Parkison's: https://parkinsonsdisease.net/news/adhd-increased-risk

These are both Dopamine deficient disorders. By using EMFs to stimulate the brain you will not increase the amount of Dopamine created, you will only increase the Dopamine that is released. This will lead to longer term issues, and I fully believe, an increase in the risk of Parkinson's or other dopa related disorders.

Will it help symptoms? Yes. But so does Ritalin and so does Levdopa for Parkinson's. And it is well know that Levdopa makes Parkinson's worse in the long run for many people by accelerating the loss of nigrostriatal dopamine nerve terminals:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa033447

"The clinical data suggest that levodopa either slows the progression of Parkinson's disease or has a prolonged effect on the symptoms of the disease. In contrast, the neuroimaging data suggest either that levodopa accelerates the loss of nigrostriatal dopamine nerve terminals or that its pharmacologic effects modify the dopamine transporter. The potential long-term effects of levodopa on Parkinson's disease remain uncertain."

And Ritalin is known to increase the risk of PArkinon's: https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-medications-parkinsons-dise... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36593727/

Why is this? Because in these people the damage is caused by the rapid metabolism of Dopamine and the creation of H2O2, an oxidative stressor that destroys the neurons.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4135313/

So these people would likely do better by focusing on reducing the oxidative stress of increased H2O2.

But back to ADHD: ADHD is known to be linked to lower dopamine creation. To increase dopamine where and when the brain needs it you need to stimulate the pathway that makes Dopamine. This is a simple pathway.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Eirini-Kalliolia/public...

The enzymes GCH1 and PTPS need zinc to work. BH4 (Tetrahydrobipterin) is very sensitive to oxidative stress, TH needs Iron, and AADC (DDC) needs B6.

The genetic disorder, AADC Deficiency, leads to ADHD symptoms. https://aadcnews.com/columns/how-understanding-adhd-helps-us...

If you have a genetic polymorphism in any of these genes it will make you more likely to have lower dopamine. And if you are deficient in any of the vitamin cofactors you will also be deficient in dopamine.

IMH(well researched)O, ADHD is a polygenetic and dietary disorder that can be reversed with nutrition and limiting the release of dopamine (like no coffee, no alcohol, no sugar, etc).

Personalized Medicine is the only way anyone will have any relief from ADHD. For each person there are different genetic and environmental causes. EMF Stimulation if trying to find a magic bullet for a complex and individual disorder and it will lead to worse outcomes.

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

#47

This kind of snake oil stuff should be illegal as it only enables abuse of people with such condition. I can easily picture this: "concerned relative / partner"> You could be much better if only you tried this person with condition> I have researched this, these things don't work, it is a waste of time and money. "concerned relative / partner"> No, you just don't want to get better! I am really losing patience with y…

> No, you just don't want to get better! I am really losing patience with you. Why don't you want to get help!? I do not understand why people choose someone who says stuff like this as their partner.

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Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

#48

As someone with severe ADHD who has been repeatedly told they need to try everything that's not medication (so much CBT), I am now deeply sceptical of every new supposed cure. A presumably extremely expensive headband that claims to be a "MRI in your pocket" and has an AI assistant to help you use it correctly seems like yet another scam preying on the disabled. I'll stick to the meds thanks.

This just seems to be tDCS stimulator with a bunch of bells and whistles and possibly better UX.

Probably not technically a scam, there is plenty of research showing that it might be somewhat effective but nothing particularly innovative (you can get a generic stimulator for probably a lot less without all the extreme marketing overhead).

Re: ADHD headband treats symptoms in 20 minutes per day

#50

As someone with severe ADHD who has been repeatedly told they need to try everything that's not medication (so much CBT), I am now deeply sceptical of every new supposed cure. A presumably extremely expensive headband that claims to be a "MRI in your pocket" and has an AI assistant to help you use it correctly seems like yet another scam preying on the disabled. I'll stick to the meds thanks.

>As someone with severe ADHD who has been repeatedly told they need to try everything that's not medication (so much CBT),

Mind telling me what have you tried as far diet goes?

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