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Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Re: Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Post by black_briar »

nradov wrote: post #73
QuercusMax wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"According to a 2024 analysis by The Washington Post, 60% of low-income countries were under some form of U.S. financial sanction. The analysis also concluded that the U.S. imposes three times as many sanctions as any other country or international body." - from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_sanctions Really quite ridiculous that there are sanctions on something like 1/3 of the world.

Ridiculous in what sense? Perhaps those low-income countries should get their shit together and stop sponsoring terrorists, introduce multiparty democracy with free elections, allow free-market capitalism, extradite wanted criminals, and adhere to the treaties that they've ratified. The USA is under no obligation to trade with unfriendly countries.

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Re: Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #51
RadiozRadioz wrote: post #37

I'm frequently reminded how thankful I am to live in a country with a strong, positive international reputation. Even ignoring actual quality-of-life stuff associated with where I live - simply not being from a country with a "dodgy" reputation makes many things so much easier. I don't have to think about blocked websites. Companies accept my payments. Couriers ship to me. With my passport, I walk straight to the fro…

I live in a small EU country. There are many, many american sites that just block the whole EU IP ranges becaus they don't want to deal with GDPR.

Hey, this is me, I do this.

Re: Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Post by literallycancer »

menacingly wrote: post #80
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a small EU country. There are many, many american sites that just block the whole EU IP ranges becaus they don't want to deal with GDPR.

I'm surprised I don't see it more. You can't impose a regulatory burden more troublesome than your traffic is worth

Sadly the EU doesn't really communicate this very well, and doesn't care to call out outright propaganda from ad tech and surveillance businesses, but the regulation is not actually hard to be compliant with.

It literally just asks that you don't spy on people. That's it. Not spying on users? Great, you don't even have to do anything.

I would be extremely surprised to see any attempt at enforcement against a website that didn't collect PII on some technicality such as not having the right footer or a contact person.

Re: Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Post by Dylan16807 »

menacingly wrote: post #80
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a small EU country. There are many, many american sites that just block the whole EU IP ranges becaus they don't want to deal with GDPR.

I'm surprised I don't see it more. You can't impose a regulatory burden more troublesome than your traffic is worth

The burden of not tracking people is quite small.

Re: Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Post by miki123211 »

poincaredisk wrote: post #67
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a small EU country. There are many, many american sites that just block the whole EU IP ranges becaus they don't want to deal with GDPR.

Are there? I only someones stumble upon some medical website that redirects me to a "tracking free" empty static page[1] if I come from Europe and opt-out of cookies (which I always do anyway). Maybe we visit other parts of the internet, I don't read a lot of non-IT English things. [1]A big troll that I respect.

A lot of local American newspapers do this.

Europeans usually have no reason to read these, the only reason I know is that I googled a few of my American friends at one point and kept hitting these.

Re: Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Post by literallycancer »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #82
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a small EU country. There are many, many american sites that just block the whole EU IP ranges becaus they don't want to deal with GDPR.

Hey, this is me, I do this.

You are likely overreacting. If you don't slap random trackers on the website, it doesn't ask you to do much at all.

Re: Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Post by literallycancer »

QuercusMax wrote: post #58
buran77 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you happen to not be aligned with or really on the wrong side of that fabled ideal power monopole. It can quickly knock you from ignorance to reality. Imagine Russia was that monopole of power. Or look no further than a dictatorship. Great if your interests align or you're willing to bend them until they do, hell if they don't. The US is the closest thing we have to a monopole these days and I'm sure it's swee…

"According to a 2024 analysis by The Washington Post, 60% of low-income countries were under some form of U.S. financial sanction. The analysis also concluded that the U.S. imposes three times as many sanctions as any other country or international body." - from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_sanctions Really quite ridiculous that there are sanctions on something like 1/3 of the world.

Is it? Why should a random third world country be allowed to trade with Russia, Iran, North Korea or China? If anything, it would make sense if there were more sanctions, not less, with how things are going.

Re: Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Post by miki123211 »

lxgr wrote: post #61

Falsehoods lawyers believe about the Internet: You can identify a person (and their jurisdiction) from “their” IP address.

Falsehoods programmers believe about law: the fact that an identification method isn't 100% accurate means that it has no value

Re: Cloudflare misidentifies Hetzner IPs as being located in Iran

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Post by skissane »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #51
RadiozRadioz wrote: post #37

I'm frequently reminded how thankful I am to live in a country with a strong, positive international reputation. Even ignoring actual quality-of-life stuff associated with where I live - simply not being from a country with a "dodgy" reputation makes many things so much easier. I don't have to think about blocked websites. Companies accept my payments. Couriers ship to me. With my passport, I walk straight to the fro…

I live in a small EU country. There are many, many american sites that just block the whole EU IP ranges becaus they don't want to deal with GDPR.

I’ve been noticing more and more US state and local government websites blocking traffic from outside the US. (And I’m not talking about traffic from North Korea, I’m talking about traffic from ANZUS/AUKUS/FVEY ally Australia.)

It seems stupid because just because someone is overseas doesn’t mean they can’t have valid business with a US state or local government. Maybe they are an American who is travelling and has to attend to some official business back home while they are away. Foreigners are allowed to purchase US real estate and incorporate companies in the US, which gives them heaps of legitimate reasons for interacting with local and state governments. In part due to these kinds of issues, many use some local agent in the US to handle government interactions for them, but a person can have valid reasons to engage directly.

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