When the block became effective, I asked how much it would cost to migrate to Cloudflare. It appears that it wasn’t that expensive, haha.
Twitter/X migrated to Cloudflare, bypassing Brazilian block
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Re: Twitter/X migrated to Cloudflare, bypassing Brazilian block
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Free speech is not a law set in stone, in the US you can be a Nazi without any legal repercussions, here in Brazil you cannot. I'd like to keep it that way.
Just a short history lesson: Nazi's were the ones that burnt the books. You're welcome!
Yep, which is why Elmo sympathizers hate reading so much and send spam and hate propaganda forward.
Re: Twitter/X migrated to Cloudflare, bypassing Brazilian block
#23It's really interesting that CloudFlare accepted X (Twitter) as a client knowing the fights Musk gets into.
We really need to avoid a future where censorship is regarded as a virtue and monopolized transit providers are "cancelled" or shamed into being the judge/jury/executioner. The far better solution is just to ignore stuff you don't agree with, go outside, and move on with life.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Free speech is not a law set in stone, in the US you can be a Nazi without any legal repercussions, here in Brazil you cannot. I'd like to keep it that way.
Just a short history lesson: Nazi's were the ones that burnt the books. You're welcome!
Exactly, they were the ones burning books. I'd like to keep them prohibited from openly defending their ideology online or offline.
If you're a Nazi the only place you belong is in a prison cell.
Re: Twitter/X migrated to Cloudflare, bypassing Brazilian block
#25Looks like they only use it in Brazil, everywhere else seems to resolve to regular Twitter IPs
Then our Supreme Court will have to issue a legal order to Cloudflare, which has representatives in Brazil, to block X nation-wide. Blocking Cloudflare itself wouldn't make any sense as our country systems themselves would get hurt and I don't think Cloudflare will deny such order.
It's hard to see why Cloudflare would put themselves in this position if they're planning to back down when the order inevitably comes in. (Perhaps Twitter somehow did this without Cloudflare's cooperation - I wouldn't put that past them trying but I'd be surprised if it were possible.)
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#26Re: Twitter/X migrated to Cloudflare, bypassing Brazilian block
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hosting Kiwi Farms wasn't likely to get Cloudflares ASN null-routed by the 7th most populous state on Earth though. There's the potential for serious collateral damage to Cloudflares business here if Brazil calls their bluff.
Null-routing Cloudflare is also going to do a fair bit of collateral damage to the people of the 7th most populous state on Earth though. Considering the initial order of the Brazilian judiciary regarding VPN, this is almost certainly what Twitter hopes to achieve here.
Like project golden shield damaged the chinese internet and handicapped lical grown buisnesses?
Re: Twitter/X migrated to Cloudflare, bypassing Brazilian block
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Free speech is not a law set in stone, in the US you can be a Nazi without any legal repercussions, here in Brazil you cannot. I'd like to keep it that way.
Just a short history lesson: Nazi's were the ones that burnt the books. You're welcome!
What kind of “books”?
Re: Twitter/X migrated to Cloudflare, bypassing Brazilian block
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then our Supreme Court will have to issue a legal order to Cloudflare, which has representatives in Brazil, to block X nation-wide. Blocking Cloudflare itself wouldn't make any sense as our country systems themselves would get hurt and I don't think Cloudflare will deny such order.
It's hard to see why Cloudflare would put themselves in this position if they're planning to back down when the order inevitably comes in. (Perhaps Twitter somehow did this without Cloudflare's cooperation - I wouldn't put that past them trying but I'd be surprised if it were possible.)
Don't see why they would join this fight agains't Brazil.
The money X Corp is paying them cannot be THAT great to justify losing all brazilian costumers and Cloudflare doesn't seem like a very ideology-driven company.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Null-routing Cloudflare is also going to do a fair bit of collateral damage to the people of the 7th most populous state on Earth though. Considering the initial order of the Brazilian judiciary regarding VPN, this is almost certainly what Twitter hopes to achieve here.
Like project golden shield damaged the chinese internet and handicapped lical grown buisnesses?
Roskomnadzor's 2018 escapade with Telegram under a rather similar situation - their attempts to block it ended up taking out vast sections of the internet (for Russians) that didn't have anything to do with Telegram.
Tying your service to vital internet infrastructure can work. It doesn't even have to be a particularly ironclad solution. In 2018, the powers that be in Russia decided it's cheaper to flood Telegram with their own propaganda, rather than block it.