Please stop putting cookie pop-ups on your website (2022)

Post by GJim » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 10:00 AM UTC

Ferret7446 wrote: post #121

matheusmoreira wrote: post #100

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It doesn't matter what they want. It doesn't matter why they want it. They are not entitled to this information. They should not be able to know anything at all about us without our explicit consent. We should not have to sacrifice our privacy and peace of mind so that businesses can succeed. If they can't succeed without surveilling us and selling us out, then let them go bankrupt.

And you aren't entitled to visit their website. Seems like everything is working fine then? Most of them won't go bankrupt just because you stop visiting; based on reality, most of them are doing relatively fine.

Post by latexr » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 10:14 AM UTC

Ferret7446 wrote: post #123

kalaksi wrote: post #73

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They probably still track you even if you paid money, so that makes paying less enticing. And it's prudent to assume so unless they clearly state otherwise

That's because you're not paying enough. If you pay enough, you absolutely can get non-tracking products. Of course, people either aren't willing or can't. Them's the breaks.

Post by f1refly » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 10:23 AM UTC

Ferret7446 wrote: post #122

f1refly wrote: post #107

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> - Browsers would come with the no tracking signal enabled by default (why wouldn't they?) so that tracking would become opt-in. > - Nobody chooses to be tracked. > - The whole industry built on tracking users collapses, namely advertisement > - Web sites who based their business model on advertisement go under This seems like the perfect outcome to me, but I doubt we'll be this lucky

Maybe I'm soft, but I always ad block and yet I don't think millions of people losing their jobs, and the resultant economic depression causing millions of other people to go hungry/homeless is a perfect outcome.

Post by sofixa » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 11:04 AM UTC

Earw0rm wrote: post #18

sofixa wrote: post #10

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The lawmakers regulated that a website should warn you, and then upgraded to ask for your consent, before collecting and storing privately identifiable information about you. The regulation doesn't mention cookie popups. The easiest way to comply is to not collect nor store any such information.

How do you manage login sessions without? If you're a site that has even basic analytics reporting requirements, how do you do any of that without? "Don't do these things" is a decent option for sole traders, microbusiness and hobby website operators, but good luck selling that to anyone "in a suit" (more likely $500 jeans or chinos nowadays).

Post by ruthmarx » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 11:27 AM UTC

latexr wrote: post #132

mrweasel wrote: post #65

Maybe stop doing stupid shit that will legally require you to inform users that you're about to sell/share everything you know about them to 3rd parties? I fail to understand companies that display page after page of cookies and tracking stuff for you to approve don't see the issue with their actions or the insanity of "allow us to share data with our 1500 partners". Does no one in these business look at this and go:…

> When you actually read what these pop-ups says, then you understand why they are there, and why the problem with the laws isn't that it's annoying, but that it is not much more restrictive. Worse, people (including on HN) actively blaming the EU for it. It’s like having a law mandating people are informed when there’s poison in their drink, then seeing people complain about the warning labels everywhere. The label…