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Asgard launches world's first DDR5-9600 DIMMs

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Re: Asgard launches world's first DDR5-9600 DIMMs

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post #9

What goes unsaid in the article is that this will likely only work with Intel's Arrow Lake? Arrow Lake isnt being launched until next month though, so official specs are not available yet. And the full 9600 speed will very likely require overclocking. It doesnt appear Zen5 can get anywhere close those speeds.

These are part of a new generation of DDR5 modules that add a clock driver to the module itself, rather than relying entirely on the clock signal coming all the way from the CPU's memory controller. That is expected to significantly change the game for DDR5 overclocking, and expectations based on the limitations of configurations lacking the clock drivers may not be accurate. I expect we'll see 6+ months of firmware tuning before we have a clear picture of what each platform is ultimately capable of, but early on the focus will be on Intel platforms.

Re: Asgard launches world's first DDR5-9600 DIMMs

#14
post #9

What goes unsaid in the article is that this will likely only work with Intel's Arrow Lake? Arrow Lake isnt being launched until next month though, so official specs are not available yet. And the full 9600 speed will very likely require overclocking. It doesnt appear Zen5 can get anywhere close those speeds.

Not an expert, but Zen 5 desktop feels like it is being held back by memory bandwidth. Several tests show there is no real benefit in >6000 DRAMs.

Re: Asgard launches world's first DDR5-9600 DIMMs

#15
post #9

What goes unsaid in the article is that this will likely only work with Intel's Arrow Lake? Arrow Lake isnt being launched until next month though, so official specs are not available yet. And the full 9600 speed will very likely require overclocking. It doesnt appear Zen5 can get anywhere close those speeds.

Not an expert, but Zen 5 desktop feels like it is being held back by memory bandwidth. Several tests show there is no real benefit in >6000 DRAMs.

Bandwidth is currently limited by the infinity fabric implementation on consumer AMD CPUs, 6/8 core CPUs with s single CCD top out bandwidth quite early and improvements from higher clocks are minimal even from like 5600, assuming timings are overclocked similarly and beyond basic xmp/expo

Re: Asgard launches world's first DDR5-9600 DIMMs

#16
post #9

What goes unsaid in the article is that this will likely only work with Intel's Arrow Lake? Arrow Lake isnt being launched until next month though, so official specs are not available yet. And the full 9600 speed will very likely require overclocking. It doesnt appear Zen5 can get anywhere close those speeds.

Granite ridge can currently do 8000-8400 when overclocked at a 1:2 ratio of memory controller clock to memory clock, though with some work needed to get it working.

The 9600 may be possible with DIMMs using the clock driver even on granite ridge

Re: Asgard launches world's first DDR5-9600 DIMMs

#17

China based firm named Asgard with product names like Thor? Whats going on here?

Marketing... These not-so-famous-yet Chinese firms have picked up what the West has been doing and are trying to cut out the middle-man. Essentially the West's MO has been to buy cheap no-name generic stuff from china, have them colored/branded/packaged, and then slap on all the necessary product packaging stuff on the packaging (including a "Name"). Essentially acting as a middle-man that doesn't actually produce the product, barely does any QA and just adds a thin veneer of this being an actual "company" that manufactures and sells this product. Sometimes they use a fancy term like "white labeling".

Here is such a company in the South African context that's super obvious about it: https://www.loot.co.za/search?cat=b&brandcode/leisurequip

Re: Asgard launches world's first DDR5-9600 DIMMs

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post #12
post #9

What goes unsaid in the article is that this will likely only work with Intel's Arrow Lake? Arrow Lake isnt being launched until next month though, so official specs are not available yet. And the full 9600 speed will very likely require overclocking. It doesnt appear Zen5 can get anywhere close those speeds.

These are part of a new generation of DDR5 modules that add a clock driver to the module itself, rather than relying entirely on the clock signal coming all the way from the CPU's memory controller. That is expected to significantly change the game for DDR5 overclocking, and expectations based on the limitations of configurations lacking the clock drivers may not be accurate. I expect we'll see 6+ months of firmware…

How does that work? I imagine you now have the feed to clock from ram back to the CPU? Or does it synchronize two local clocks somehow?

Re: Asgard launches world's first DDR5-9600 DIMMs

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did they also make a compatible motherboard ? because I can't get mine to go past 4800Mhz when my RAM is rated for 6400Mhz with AM5 CPU.

for those who hadn't done this for a while, PSA: motherboards these days have a RAM compatibility list on their product page, check it before overspending on RAM.

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