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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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bri3d wrote: post #52
isodev wrote: post #46

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Apple doesn’t say. I also think a Remote Desktop with fancy branding shouldn’t be hard to release safely and even allow 3rd party integrations.

They've made a statement, however weak: https://archive.is/Rl7Ue “Due to the regulatory uncertainties brought about by the Digital Markets Act, we do not believe that we will be able to roll out three of these [new] features — iPhone Mirroring, SharePlay Screen Sharing enhancements and Apple Intelligence — to our EU users this year.”

Considering the pricing in the EU it was already hard to consider the effort to value worthwhile but now we are officially getting a substandard product.

Before there were many stuffs like Apple News never making it but at least there was some pretense of working on it.

Since EU people are getting a less featureful product, they should get products priced accordingly.

Otherwise, Apple should just fuck off EU if it doesn't want to play ball, they started the whole thing by being consumer hostile and the greediest corporation ever, they make Microsoft look like the good guys.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Nextgrid wrote: post #586
threeseed wrote: post #584

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Please provide evidence of any of your comment. Especially given you are so quick to criticise me for gobbling up said bullshit.

Evidence could be that Microsoft isn't in trouble for shipping Windows with RDP servers/clients in Europe, which is equivalent to this iPhone mirroring feature. Why is Microsoft able to do it just fine (without running afoul of the DMA) while Apple supposedly can't, despite MS having an ever larger marketshare of its field than Apple and this would warrant even more scrutiny? The multitude of third-party RDP clients…

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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by seec »

Nextgrid wrote: post #463
samatman wrote: post #386

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> It's only a matter of time before the EU gets wise to this "gets wise to this" how, exactly? The EU can certainly set conditions which Apple must meet to ship a feature. They have no legal grounds whatsoever to demand that Apple ship that feature to Europe, specially modified to meet their exacting requirements. How would that even work? One way to comply with the EU's demands that a product work a certain way, is…

Gets wise that this is blatant malicious compliance, and use this to inform potential enforcement action and/or revisions to the regulation. It could very well become that after enough of this, DMA 2.0 would have a provision stipulating that any feature withheld in the EU would need to have a valid technical justification that passes review by a panel of independent experts.

Yep, I hope they work on something like that. Maybe we could get a chance for another competitive OS in the EU.

Sometimes I wish they tax the hell out of those US behemoth in a way that would open space for EU companies to become competitive. The network effects are too big when it comes to IT, it's not very wise to let the US be the sole beneficiary of such an industry.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by seec »

dbmnt wrote: post #450
trvr wrote: post #5

I am usually slow to upgrade but I jumped on this and iOS 18 immediately because of "iPhone Mirroring". I've only had it for a few minutes, but it's really nice!

Let us know if you're actually using it in a week or so. (I tried it a couple of times in the beta. It is slow. It is clunky. It is an impractical way to interact with your iPhone.)

Well, it's basically VNC over Wifi with a custom layer for touch events and other special iOS cases, so yeah.

VNC over wifi is worse than RDP'ing a server across a country if you have good wired fiber connection. But I guess in a pinch if you don't want to look for your iPhone and need a quick interaction.

But I agree that in any case it's largely a gimmick and mainly something for marketing reasons around the ecosystem and all that jazz. It's just like the failed attempt at porting iOS/iPadOS apps to the Mac: makes for a great release announcement/keynote, in practice barely worth using.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by seec »

rgovostes wrote: post #261
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #164

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It is surprisingly slow, though. Like, awfully slow. There's a very noticeable latency that's unacceptable for a local device sitting right next to the computer.

Apple has been doing low latency screen mirroring for, I don’t know, a decade. If you find the latency unacceptable, consider looking into your network performance.

Great way to tell you have low standard and can't detect latency. The same thing has been said about the iPad Mirroring, expect it's effectively unusable for anyone half serious if you don't use the wired mode.

For a quick tech demo, it's all fun and games, but when there is real shit to do, nobody wants to fight their tools.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by seec »

wpm wrote: post #344
RadiozRadioz wrote: post #244

I feel left out sometimes given that I'm still on Mojave. Everyone else is enjoying their new features. But I also like running 32-bit apps and knowing where the system preferences are (because they haven't changed every year for me). So swings and roundabouts.

I'm thinking of going back. I can't stand the horrific "flat" UI and the crappy white-on-grey-on-light-grey, I hate not having separate window title bars, the combined title/tool bars, the inscrutable buttons labeled with nothing but a squiggle, it's just hideous now. Even though Mojave and Catalina still carry scars from the crimes committed in Yosemite towards good adherence to the HIG, they're miles better.

> inscrutable buttons labeled with nothing but a squiggle

Something you learn to really like on Windows is how well "described" most of the UI is on hover. In macOS even for seasoned users there are always some things you are never quite sure do and you have to Google much of it. Plenty of the UI is not discoverable, Windows got that part way better.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by seec »

subjectsigma wrote: post #238
matthew-wegner wrote: post #110

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I realize it's a very Apple ecosystem thing to shore up gaps in macOS with 3rd party apps, but BetterDisplay can do this for you: https://github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay (Run non-retina displays at 2X frame buffer for proper anti-aliasing)

Thanks for the advice! I tried downloading this app and set both displays to HiDPI and UI elements seemed to sharpen, but certain icons are still blurry. I didn't see any options related to setting the framebuffer, I assume this happens automatically. Will keep experimenting...

I have not looked very hard but I don't think this app fixes the fundamental issues: which is the removal of proper sub-pixel antialiasing for anything that isn't considered a retina class display by their standard.

This sort of app might get a better output by forcing the 2x rendering and then scaling it to the native display resolution but it cannot possibly be of the same quality as what we had before, unless they rewrote rendering or something like that.

As far as I know there are 2 "real solutions": you buy a display that is retina class in one of their historically supported resolutions or you accept to lose a bit of desktop space by running a "sub-retina" class display at x2. For example, a 27 inch "4k" (they are 3840x2160) display will get you a desktop space of 1920/1080 in HiDPI mode. That is sad because a 27-inch iMac from the early 2000 had more desktop space, an image not as sharp but it wasn't bad as long as they kept sub-pixel antialiasing.

As far as I'm concerned, it is that way because they went the lazy way around implementing HiDPI and being able to market it like they were so much better than Microsoft. But that only works if you solely buy their hardware because nobody followed them on the desktop specs (even though it's slowly coming lately it seems).

This issue in my opinion is a testament of how much anti-consumer and disdainful Apple is; because it couldn't possible have cost them a lot of engineering to be able to support both, it is clearly for their bottom line and that's it.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by Hamuko »

fredoliveira wrote: post #588
Hamuko wrote: post #579

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The biggest problem is that the defaulting to binary distribution also means that building from source is unsupported. > Building from source takes a long time, is prone to failure, and is not supported. Having issues building your Homebrew packages from source? Well, you better not take it to the bug tracker.

> The biggest problem is that the defaulting to binary distribution also means that building from source is unsupported. I don't think it means that at all. They're both clearly supported by homebrew — one just happens to be the default. You can always use -s or --build-from-source to build whatever package you are installing.

I mean, it is quite clearly said in the documentation that building from source is not supported.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by adastra22 »

Hamuko wrote: post #608
fredoliveira wrote: post #588

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> The biggest problem is that the defaulting to binary distribution also means that building from source is unsupported. I don't think it means that at all. They're both clearly supported by homebrew — one just happens to be the default. You can always use -s or --build-from-source to build whatever package you are installing.

I mean, it is quite clearly said in the documentation that building from source is not supported.

It's running the same compilation steps that the binaries are produced from. If you can get a binary through homebrew, you can compile it from source. It's just unsupported in the sense that the developers don't want to spend their time chasing down build issues on individual user's systems. You're on your own if you break your local build environment.

(Ignoring the packages that are just wrappers around closed source software and fetch binaries whether you compile from source or not. Those are the exception, not the rule.)

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