Live data from Hacker News

macOS Sequoia is available today

apple.com

561–570 of 643 posts

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

#561
post #469
post #398

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The official way, which is by going to the Privacy & Security screen to click the override button

No the official way is the control-click. It was suggested by Apple in the UI of System Preferences back in the Mountain Lion days. https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/gatek...

Okay, in Mountain Lion sure. However that phrasing has not been around for a while.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

#562
post #424
post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That requirement doesn't apply to most apps even though it says it does. Zoom/Teams/Slack all pick up the permissions immediately.

Slack seems to randomly lose microphone access (whether permissions or not) requiring restart anyway, so doesn't really help. And unless that's really recent, no, I have colleagues drop out of Teams meetings to enable microphone or screen sharing access all the time.

Yes because it says you have to. The system claims it won't work, but it works fine.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

#563

Yearly reminder to not jump ahead directly if you care about your productivity. Just wait a few months, there is no rush to upgrade, you won’t miss anything critical by delaying a bit. macOS releases always come up with issues that are solved in minor/patch versions in the first 3-6 months.

Always solid advice. Still, I updated a sacrificial laptop to the public beta on day 1 and it’s been one of the most boring-in-a-good-way releases in a while. Save for things like Rogue Amoeba having to update their software to a new API, which is an annual tradition, I honestly don’t recall anything that didn’t work from the start.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

#564
post #540

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"From TFA: ‘Highlights automatically surfaces directions for a location’ Is that a mistype? In an apple advertisement?" "Highlights" as a singular brand/product/whatever name. Like saying "Postmates delivers stuff"

I understand that, but even so the sentence makes no sense. I assumed that they meant to write: ‘Highlights automatically searches directions for a location’. Pardon my pedantry, but how is it possible to ‘surface’ a direction. Am I missing something? My point stands… the quality of writing in this article is very poor: overly long sentences, clunky information reveal etc. it feels more like a first draft.

It “surfaces”, as in “reveals”. Yeah, the wording could’ve been a lot clearer there, but it’s actually correct. Let me try a hand at it:

> The new Highlights feature easily reveals directions to the addresses mentioned on a web page.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

#565

I know I'll be seen as an Apple fanbot for saying it, but holy schmoley Apple's operating system-fu just leaves Windows in the dust.

That's more on Microsoft's sudden shift to enshittification as a business model rather than making good software. Apple has is actually enshittifying too (dumb UI changes, worse apps - see "Catalyst", etc), it's just that Microsoft has became a trailblazer in that field so Apple still feels good in comparison, despite the many downgrades.

Pedant: Enshittification means something different, involving a company making one group’s experience worse so they can extract more money from another. It’s not “just” making a product worse.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

#566

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they want people to buy and use Apple monitors, not third party ones.

Third parties can easily just use the same resolutions Apple uses for their monitors and they would work exactly the same

Yep. I have a 4K monitor with decent specs that you can get on Amazon for about $250 today. There’s not a hardware lock-in on monitors.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

#568
post #448

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New Maps features launch only in Bay Area. CarPlay EV integration works only with Porsche Taycan. Are they implementing things just for Tim?

The way Apple product management works is that everyone is always demoing stuff up the chain and ultimately to Tim. They’re reverentially referred to as “Tim demos” internally. If Tim likes it, you get tons of resources. The downside may be that in the pathological case you’re implementing stuff just for Tim. Another downside is you can’t really demo e.g. high-quality backwards-compatible SDKs to an exec. The upside…

Google released their latest chat app 7 years ago.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

#569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you suggesting that Apple is making it less convenient for users to run unsigned binaries, because they want to increase developer program revenue?

Not developer program revenue. At every turn where they have a choice, Apple does the same thing: sell devices increasingly locked to their own ecosystem, and sell it as a feature to protect folks. This strategy works really well: they actually have folks arguing that giving all Apple users fewer choices is a feature. They have been ratcheting down on freedom in OS X (and then MacOS) since 2011 or so when I stopped u…

I don't think I agree with your conclusion about their endgame being a replication of the iOS App Store golden goose, but I do see how it could come about. The reason I disagree is because changes like this oft remind me of the problems Facebook used to have (still do?) with stolen tokens and cookies that would come about from people pasting JavaScript into their browser's devtools console.

Some poor schmuck would find a viral comment that said something like "Mark Zuckerberg doesn't want you to know how to get Facebook Premium! Copy and paste this code into your browser, ignore Facebook's warnings, they don't want you to get it for free!" And badabing badaboom, stolen credentials get sent to some server.

I don't work at Apple and can only speculate on their motive, but since I advise my family to use macOS, it's my hope that this change would prevent them from reading something like "download this scary blob and then ctrl+click on it to open it for free Photoshop! Ignore Apple's warning, Adobe has paid them because they don't want you to get it for free!"

It does make it slightly more inconvenient for me, but I think chromedriver may be the only unsigned code that I run regularly.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

#570
post #544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you still have to quit and restart the entire application after you give the permission? Holy shit mac users are gonna become a meme in meetings. MacOS is turning into quite the poo log lately. I respect that Apple has every right to completely destroy the legacy of the Macintosh, but they are slow playing it so that it's just a little bit better than the alternatives. The end result is my life gets just a little…

> I respect that Apple has every right to completely destroy the legacy of the Macintosh I disagree. Apple's various machinations to control the best available supply lines (deals with TSMC, etc...) make me feel quite entitled in saying what is and is not acceptable behavior on their part. This feeling amplifies with every "courageous" announcement they make sunsetting some useful feature they no longer feel like sup…

I would also add that since Apple chose to lock their software and support of various file format/data storage to their own hardware solely; they have a responsibility toward their longtime customer to provide a good long-term experience. Otherwise, the only "solution" is to get stuck in time at a particular OS release and it doesn't work in IT for many different reasons.

There is a large difference in computing devices versus other simple objects, in that they need software and software can change which is problematic but should not be a problem for the customer/user...

In my opinion Apple is largely failing at providing a worthwhile platform, when they don't just discontinue stuff for their bottom line, most of the changes are for marketing reasons or increasing lockdown to extract more money from customers.

There is not a whole lot of useful stuff that have been added in the last 5 OS iterations but a lot of major annoyance or downgrades/roadblock/complications for usage, etc...

Post reply on HN