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Shrinking the economy won't save the planet

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Re: Shrinking the economy won't save the planet

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i mostly agree with you, especially that 'the challenge is to return to harmony with nature while still enjoying the benefits of science and technology' vaclav's 10% goal is obviously not enough. we need to be able to capture more like 150% of current co₂ emissions, not 10%. his argument is very weak, though, so weak that he can't possibly be expecting to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with him; his argume…

Even if Smil is a goober telling just-so stories for fun, it still makes sense to try to reduce pollution, and we can also spin up a new global industry to clean the sky.

yes, i definitely agree there

Re: Shrinking the economy won't save the planet

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Usually, growth comes from increased efficiency, and increased efficiency usually results in lower environmental impact. I don’t get how the degrowth movement can seriously argue that blocking that sort of progress would help the planet. Instead, we should price in environmental externalities whenever possible. E.g., want to manufacture plastic? Great. Recycle at least as much post consumer waste into feedstock equiv…

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