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Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

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Would geolocated historical seismographic data do?

They’re empiricists — the only ~~real~~ conclusive way to answer that question is to try it, IMO! The old ML maxim was “don’t expect models to do anything a human expert couldn’t do with access to the same data”, but that’s clearly going to way of Moore’s Law… I don’t think a meteorologist could predict 11km^2 of weather 10 days out very accurately, and I know for sure that a neuroscientists couldn’t recreate someone…

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Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

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Every weather forecasting agency in the world is pivoting to ML methods, and some of them have very deep pockets and industry partnerships. Some big tech companies are forging ahead on their own. Unless you have proprietary data, you just bought yourself a low paying job with long hours. Typical poor judgement of naive YC founders. Founding a company is more exciting than being successful.

Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

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All of this AGI/singularity stuff is quite literally science fiction, so it can be whatever OP wants it to be.

I have a specific idea in mind but this is true too :) AI = Imagination!

What is your idea?

Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

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What is "simulated Earth consciousness"?

All of this AGI/singularity stuff is quite literally science fiction, so it can be whatever OP wants it to be.

The comment above seems too dismissive in my opinion. There is a lot of (credible and rational) (thinking and research) around what AGI might entail. There are also many interesting theories about consciousness that are worth considering. However, I don’t buy panpsychism nor notions of an “earth spirit”. Materialism works, best I can tell, and I’m not ready to throw it out. / I’m just asking for GP to explain.

Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

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If there is sufficient data, we can train on it!

Would geolocated historical seismographic data do?

I suspect (possibly incorrectly) that earthquakes are a chaotic phenomenon resulting from a multilayered complex system, a lot like a lottery ball picker.

Essentially random outputs from deterministic systems are unfortunately not rare in nature…. And I suspect that because of the relatively higher granularity of geology vs the semicohesive fluid dynamics of weather, geology will be many orders of magnitude more difficult to predict.

That said, it might be possible to make useful forecasts in the 1 minute to 1 hour range (under the assumption that major earthquakes often have a dynamic change in precursor events), and if accuracy was reasonable in that range, it would still be very useful for major events.

Looking at the outputs of chaotic systems like geolocated historical seismographic data might not be any more useful than 4-10 orders of magnitude better than looking at previous lottery ball selections in predicting the next ones…. Which is to say that the predictive power might still not be useful even though there is some pattern in the noise.

Generative AI needs a large and diverse training set to avoid overfitting problems. Something like high resolution underground electrostatic distribution might potentially be much more predictive than past outputs alone, but I don’t know of any such efforts to map geologic stress at a scale that would provide a useful training corpus.

Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

#146
Check out Climavision. They use AI to generate both hyper-local ("will there be a tornado over my town in the next 30 minutes?") and seasonal ("will there be a draught next fall?") forecasts, and they do it faster than the National Weather Service. They also operate their own private radar network to fill observational gaps.

Disclosure: I work there.

https://climavision.com/

Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

#147
Did you explore other branches of AI, namely KRLs? It's an underrated area especially in recent years.

Using the full expressive power of a programming language to model the real world and then execute AI algorithms on highly structured and highly understood data seems like the right way to go!

Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

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Are you suggesting that flood prevention only happens in higher income neighbourhoods? Flood prevention tends to lie on the county engineers. Not so much private individuals to dictate. Doesn't matter how much money you have, you can't just dig up a road to put in proper flood prevention measures like drainage and grade.

The Army Corps of Engineers also does a lot of flood management work, and they use a cost/benefit analysis when deciding which projects to approve that takes into account the value of the real estate being protected. And even then, the local community has to put up a large share of the funding. So it definitely ends up favoring richer communities. 99 Percent Invisible did an episode about this recently: https://99per…

It was fascinating to see the counter-proposal to the Army Corps of Engineers for Miami's design of a downtown wall to deal with storm surges: https://dirt.asla.org/2022/09/12/uproar-causes-u-s-army-corp...

The counter proposal was indeed funded by the City of Miami, to point out how ridiculous it would be to have a 20 foot concrete wall around the city.

As a local resident, I loved seeing this sad 3D render in particular, which even has a graffiti on it nearly spelling "Berlin": https://i0.wp.com/dirt.asla.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/0...

In seriousness, it was really cool to see the counter proposal's "nature-based solution" which would design 39 acres of distributed barrier islands around the coastline, to block storm surge naturally.

Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

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Congrats to Jayesh and team! I was lucky to meet the founding CEO recently, and happy to let everyone know he's very friendly and of course super intelligent.

As a fellow deep learning modeler of Earth systems, I can also say that what they're doing really is 100% top notch. Congrats to the team and YC.

Re: Launch HN: Silurian (YC S24) – Simulate the Earth

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post #146

Check out Climavision. They use AI to generate both hyper-local ("will there be a tornado over my town in the next 30 minutes?") and seasonal ("will there be a draught next fall?") forecasts, and they do it faster than the National Weather Service. They also operate their own private radar network to fill observational gaps. Disclosure: I work there. https://climavision.com/

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