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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by gcr »

iknowstuff wrote: post #363
gorkish wrote: post #339

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Do you still have to quit and restart the entire application after you give the permission? Holy shit mac users are gonna become a meme in meetings. MacOS is turning into quite the poo log lately. I respect that Apple has every right to completely destroy the legacy of the Macintosh, but they are slow playing it so that it's just a little bit better than the alternatives. The end result is my life gets just a little…

Lol calm down its only for apps which failed to upgrade to their new window selector API.

Which major apps (chrome, google meet, zoom, tuple) have actually done so yet?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by windowsrookie »

benbristow wrote: post #212
windowsrookie wrote: post #207

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I have an M1 Air 8GB and a 2018 MBP 16GB. Performance feels about the same until the Air hits swap, then the old Intel MBP still outperforms the M1 Air.

One you could probably fry bacon on whilst the battery drains in an hour...

My 2018 MBP 15 is the i7 model, while it gets warm it never had the overheating issues the i9 models had. I also had the battery replaced under AppleCare about 10 months ago so it still gets 7-9 hours of battery life.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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user3939382 wrote: post #252
Hamuko wrote: post #219

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Apple locking down the OS even more by making Gatekeeper harder to bypass makes me want to skip this version for as long as possible. The screen recording permission thing also doesn't help since I'm using Ice ( https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice ) because somehow Apple still can't Sherlock this feature.

The way it's even implemented now is like the nightmare realized from everything Richard Stallman warned about for decades. Especially for non-technical users, they've practically implemented a system where Apple decides what software you are and aren't allowed to run on your own computer. They can muddy the issue by claiming it's for safety/security but I don't buy it. They could have made the override still clear b…

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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by gcr »

iknowstuff wrote: post #365
sunny_sigara wrote: post #209

Most annoying problems so far.. 1. Screen-recording permission once every week ? 2. No more sudo spctl —master-disable. Alternative way is bit complicated. 2. No more control+ click to bypass gatekeeper. 3. Why tcutil reset Accessibility not working for a specific app? It works for “All” . 4. Script to convert NSURL node ref url to posix url not working. 5. Normal usb Mouse pointer acceleration is not smooth. May be…

the permission for screen access is only for apps that failed to start using the new API where the OS lets the user select a window/screen they want to share.

again, i keep asking: which apps have actually switched to the new screen sharing API and which apps have not?

does zoom, chrome, google meet, etc still require this?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by NotPractical »

user3939382 wrote: post #252
Hamuko wrote: post #219

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Apple locking down the OS even more by making Gatekeeper harder to bypass makes me want to skip this version for as long as possible. The screen recording permission thing also doesn't help since I'm using Ice ( https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice ) because somehow Apple still can't Sherlock this feature.

The way it's even implemented now is like the nightmare realized from everything Richard Stallman warned about for decades. Especially for non-technical users, they've practically implemented a system where Apple decides what software you are and aren't allowed to run on your own computer. They can muddy the issue by claiming it's for safety/security but I don't buy it. They could have made the override still clear b…

I tend to not really care about these things as long as powerusers have a way around it. Yeah, it'd be great if everyone was technically literate, but most people simply don't care to be, and I think that's okay?

IMHO there's a huge difference between no freedom for anyone (iOS) and secure-by-default, freedom only for powerusers (macOS / Android / Chromebooks / ARM Windows devices) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by samatman »

Nextgrid wrote: post #236
samatman wrote: post #143

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Pretty simple really. The EU can't fine Apple for not doing business in EU countries, including not rolling out a feature. But if they do roll out a feature, EU has decided it can fine them 20% of global revenue if it isn't just how the EU wants it to be. Not doing so only costs Apple whatever marginal business they expect to lose in EU for not offering this or that feature. So I'd expect more of this going forward.

It's only a matter of time before the EU gets wise to this - this move is simply to delay the inevitable and buy themselves some more time to act anticompetitively. When they feel like the EU is closer to disproving their argument (because there is no technical reason this can't be opened to third-parties in a secure way), they will suddenly announce that they have found some magic and miraculous way to do it and rel…

> It's only a matter of time before the EU gets wise to this

"gets wise to this" how, exactly? The EU can certainly set conditions which Apple must meet to ship a feature. They have no legal grounds whatsoever to demand that Apple ship that feature to Europe, specially modified to meet their exacting requirements.

How would that even work? One way to comply with the EU's demands that a product work a certain way, is to not sell that product in the EU. Is your stance that EU has a right to force companies to sell their wares in the EU?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by threecheese »

gigatexal wrote: post #99

I’ve already upgraded everything in my home. All our phones, our watches, our HomePods, our laptops, and our iPads, and the AppleTv. It’s pretty cool! Still playing with things but upgrade went smoothly and I like the customizability.

None of my ATVs have the upgrade option yet; I’m a bit worried, as all the homepods and other devices are on 18, and historically version mismatches can wreak havoc on Homekit. I am pretty excited for Siri to start to stop sucking though!

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Post by gcr »

switch007 wrote: post #180
krelas wrote: post #57

Here’s one for HN readers, you can now find jq in /usr/bin/ in Sequoia.

$ jq '.[] | messages | .thank_you' wait, maybe it's... $ jq '. | .messages.thank_you' darn it! how about $ jq '[].messages.thank_you' !??@@!

jq's syntax is different, but well worth remembering.

i have some flash cards if you'd like. a teensy amount of effort pays huge dividends with swiss knife software like this (and things like matplotlib, tar CLI options, etc)

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by NotPractical »

adastra22 wrote: post #358
skrrtww wrote: post #299

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> Once you need to be in the apple developer program to build and run from source or something, that’ll be a legitimate nightmare. But we’re nowhere near that yet. This is the case for building and running things with restricted entitlements and system extensions. Unless you disable system integrity protection entirely, which locks you out of your purchased App Store software, DRM content, etc.

You can no longer disable system integrity protection.

Source?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by mintplant »

pohuing wrote: post #64
jwells89 wrote: post #37

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It forwards notifications to your Mac too, even when a mirroring session isn't active.

So what phone link has been doing for years. But I suppose with the integration Apple can do you can just open the notification on your mac? Phone link very unhelpfully bings the notifying app name...

On supported devices (Samsung and OnePlus, off the top of my head), Phone Link can mirror apps to your PC and will open them up in this mode when you click a notification. There are some rough edges, like needing to manually unlock your phone—unless you do what I did and rig up a complicated Tasker flow to automate the process. This update makes jumping over to the Apple ecosystem surprisingly tempting, since Continuity with mirroring sounds like a more polished version of Phone Link. I can't imagine giving up my ThinkPad, though.
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