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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

IshKebab wrote: post #280
adastra22 wrote: post #272

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Anything you compile on your own system you can run. This only affects downloaded binaries.

Thanks for confirming the nightmare.

I mean, you can download source if you want to run it. It isn’t a complete nightmare yet. I think we’re still in a grey area. This will help some people still, though it’ll definitely hinder others (myself included).

Once you need to be in the apple developer program to build and run from source or something, that’ll be a legitimate nightmare. But we’re nowhere near that yet.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by seemaze »

wilg wrote: post #38
aeturnum wrote: post #31

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We may actually be seeing the moment where Moom[1] is no longer an essential OS X app. It can solve both window tiling and the "maximize problem" on mac and has been my first install for many years. Here's to hoping that Apple can get one basic OS feature right once. [1] https://manytricks.com/moom/

I wish I could set the macOS one to allow me to have ⅓ on the left and ⅔ on the right.

The 'cycle' option in Rectangle.app allows just this. I use the hotkey(s) + bracket keys to cycle 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 screen windows justified left or right, and the hotkey + pipe key to cycle center justified.

These three shortcuts are embarrassingly effective and cover 99% of my window tiling. Others include the standard hotkey(s) + return for fullscreen and hotkey(s) + backspace for the previous window size..

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by cyberpunk »

bri3d wrote: post #45
cyberpunk wrote: post #34

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Ah I really wanted this too but it seems like it's not available in the EU. Does anyone understand why? Is it apple having a flap about recent DMA/Whatever regulations they don't like or is there an actual technical reason why what's probably a fancy version of VNC can't work without breaching European regulations?

It's DMA. Certainly part of it is punitive, but it makes sense, too - building and especially supporting interoperability for these protocols is a burden that they can avoid by not shipping features to the EU. They're free to change the key exchange, APIs, wire format, etc. without having to deal with documentation, key issuance, etc. outside of their walls. And, being forced to open up Screen Mirroring would reduce…

So do I understand it correctly; the problem is not MacOS having a client app, the problem is iOS acting as the server with only apple approved client implementation?

I really don't see how it falls outside of the DMA.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by eschaton »

vzaliva wrote: post #184

I feel a little disappointed as most new features announced pertain to applications shipped with the OS, rather than the OS itself. Many of these apps I do not use, as I prefer third-party alternatives. For example, I use Firefox instead of Safari, Signal instead of Messages, and 1Password instead of Passwords, Google Maps instead of Maps. The only OS-level features mentioned are windows tiling and iPhone mirroring.…

It’s not like OS-level features and improvements aren’t in every release—Apple’s been talking about them since WWDC in developer channels. Read the release notes.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by codepoet80 »

RadiozRadioz wrote: post #244

I feel left out sometimes given that I'm still on Mojave. Everyone else is enjoying their new features. But I also like running 32-bit apps and knowing where the system preferences are (because they haven't changed every year for me). So swings and roundabouts.

Right there with ya. They can pry my perpetually licensed pseudo-32-bit copy of Photoshop off my cold dead Mac Pro…

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by quitit »

deergomoo wrote: post #279
quitit wrote: post #69

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They haven't given a detailed reason, but pundits who have paid more attention to the DMA suggest that it's because the feature does not allow 3rd parties to offer the same integration. While the DMA's changes to the app store received the most publicity, the DMA mandates for modularity for any feature where a home-advantage could be granted by the gate keeper. Since features like AI and screen mirroring are already…

This is an interesting one because, to my knowledge, and unlike alternative App Stores etc on iOS, there’s surely nothing stopping an Android phone manufacturer from developing a Mac app to offer equivalent functionality? I’m unsure whether the DMA compels them to provide specific APIs beyond the ability to connect to arbitrary devices and draw to the screen, and it’s maybe a little bit concerning if it does. My unde…

While your guess is as good as mine. I can see that the screen sharing feature goes beyond what is currently possible with 3rd party mirroring tools, including apple's own earlier tools. For example right clicking brings up extensive contextual menus that aren't accessible in iOS, and I can see these also leverage the continuity features between the platforms.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by rcarmo »

modeless wrote: post #3

Window tiling! If you drag a single window to the top does it maximize, and unmaximize when you drag it away? That's been my most wanted feature in macOS since forever (yes I have tried the third party ones). I don't really care about tiling multiple windows, but I've always hated the macOS full screen behavior, and before that the old green button behavior, so an alternative that finally works well (the way Windows…

FYI, I maintain a list of more sophisticated window management tools at https://taoofmac.com/space/apps/window_managers

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by skrrtww »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #291
IshKebab wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for confirming the nightmare.

I mean, you can download source if you want to run it. It isn’t a complete nightmare yet. I think we’re still in a grey area. This will help some people still, though it’ll definitely hinder others (myself included). Once you need to be in the apple developer program to build and run from source or something, that’ll be a legitimate nightmare. But we’re nowhere near that yet.

> Once you need to be in the apple developer program to build and run from source or something, that’ll be a legitimate nightmare. But we’re nowhere near that yet.

This is the case for building and running things with restricted entitlements and system extensions.

Unless you disable system integrity protection entirely, which locks you out of your purchased App Store software, DRM content, etc.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by api »

IshKebab wrote: post #275
frankjr wrote: post #259

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> The right-click/control-click option for easily opening unsigned apps is no longer available. Users who want to open unsigned software will now need to go the long way around to do it: first, try to launch the app and dismiss the dialog box telling you that it can't be opened. Then, open Settings, go to the Privacy & Security screen, scroll all the way to the bottom to get to the Security section, and click the Ope…

We're getting closer to the bottom of the slope! I wonder what their next step will be. 1. Need to disable gatekeeper to run unsigned code. 2. Need an active developer account. 3. You can't run downloaded unsigned code.

That's when I think about jumping ship. If they require the App Store that's the end.
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