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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by philistine »

duped wrote: post #72
jmward01 wrote: post #14

A long time ago I started dreading major updates from corporate providers. They push features they want, not features I want. It got so bad with Microsoft that I fled. Apple's updates have been aggressive in resetting my preferences and pushing things like iCloud and their login to the point that they are on the Microsoft path. I am forced to use mac for work but only because of work.

Apple is most certainly not the company you want to purchase products from if you're afraid of major updates. They are far more aggressive and eager to break things than Microsoft.

Back in 1991, there was an uproar, an uproar I tells you, because System 7 required nearly a megabyte of memory instead of the 600K System 6 could run with. Sure, most users barely had more than a megabyte of memory, but it paints a pattern for sure.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by Filligree »

minot wrote: post #121
Retr0id wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're struggling full-stop. Doing anything with "apple-level" polish and reliability on current-gen LLMs is a challenge. It looks great in demos and maybe even 95% of real-world use cases, but the remaining 5% tends to be embarrassing. And it's not just a case of "the last 5% takes 95% of the work", it's more like "the last 5% is an open research problem".

> "the last 5% is an open research problem". That is the biggest hurdle, in my opinion. If we could even reply with, "sorry, I don't know about that", it would be such an improvement over what we have today. Sadly, from what I understand, the only way to say "sorry, I don't know about that" is to just say that to every single question?

There's no specific reason why LLMs couldn't be trained to say "Don't know" when they don't know. Indeed, some close examination shows separate calculation patterns when it's telling the truth, when it's making a mistake and when it's deliberately bullshitting, with the latter being painfully common.

The problem is we don't train them that way. They're trained on what data is on the internet, and people... people really aren't good at saying "I don't know".

Applying RLHF on top of that at least helps reduce the deliberate lies, but it isn't normal to give a thumbs-up to an "I don't know" response either.

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Of course, all this stuff does seem fixable.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by jazzyjackson »

avidphantasm wrote: post #112
llm_nerd wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS 18.1 and macOS 15.1 -- the versions with the full Apple Intelligence -- are both in betas, and there are enormous numbers of people blogging and vlogging about their experiences. And yes we all realize that on-device models aren't going to be competing with trillion parameter models, but people are finding it pretty useful. They just don't feel like it's release ready so they're refining. Apple has done this with…

Unless it can be completely turned off I will never upgrade and I guess I will be selling my year-old M3 Max in favor of some shitty PC (or I’ll eventually just run Asahi once it supports my hardware well).

Apples pretty decent about putting toggle switches on stuff, for instance you don't have to enable iCloud or even associate it with an Apple account if you don't care for FindMy and remote erase etc

But I'm with you, since Apple signaled going all-in on "an assistant that has access to everything" I switched to an android with the intention of never enabling Google services and certainly not the voice assistant. Unfortunately I've found it too annoying to go completely without Google, I've read that RCS messaging won't work with an unlocked bootloader, nor will precise location, so I'm stuck with some evil in the name of features parity.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by Dalewyn »

duped wrote: post #72
jmward01 wrote: post #14

A long time ago I started dreading major updates from corporate providers. They push features they want, not features I want. It got so bad with Microsoft that I fled. Apple's updates have been aggressive in resetting my preferences and pushing things like iCloud and their login to the point that they are on the Microsoft path. I am forced to use mac for work but only because of work.

Apple is most certainly not the company you want to purchase products from if you're afraid of major updates. They are far more aggressive and eager to break things than Microsoft.

This.

Moving from Windows to Mac because you hate updates is like moving from Ubuntu to Red Hat. It's more of the stuff you hated except you don't realize it; ignorance is bliss?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by kccqzy »

trvr wrote: post #5

I am usually slow to upgrade but I jumped on this and iOS 18 immediately because of "iPhone Mirroring". I've only had it for a few minutes, but it's really nice!

Can you elaborate on why it's nice? How do I do multi-touch gestures with a single cursor? Is the main benefit be able to use iPhone apps on a bigger screen? Can iPhone apps display more content (maybe let the app pretend it's being displayed on an iPad or at least a larger screen than the physical screen size)?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by amluto »

threeseed wrote: post #97
bri3d wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's DMA. Certainly part of it is punitive, but it makes sense, too - building and especially supporting interoperability for these protocols is a burden that they can avoid by not shipping features to the EU. They're free to change the key exchange, APIs, wire format, etc. without having to deal with documentation, key issuance, etc. outside of their walls. And, being forced to open up Screen Mirroring would reduce…

> supporting interoperability for these protocols is a burden Also an unprecedented and unacceptable privacy and security risk. You would be allowing third parties the ability to continuously record your iPhone's screen. Which includes websites you browse, apps you open, health information, text messages etc. And the Mac is so much open that you could do this, have a local model to transcribe it and ship it to a remo…

> Also an unprecedented and unacceptable privacy and security risk.

> You would be allowing third parties the ability to continuously record your iPhone's screen. Which includes websites you browse, apps you open, health information, text messages etc.

> And the Mac is so much open that you could do this, have a local model to transcribe it and ship it to a remote server without the user noticing.

MacOS is not secure in the way you would like to think it's secure. This is already risk. And Apple really could do this right: make screen mirroring use the DRM playback paths, and open up the API to trigger it to competitors (who would get precisely the same DRM-playback-pathed result of a screen mirror showing up in a window from which they cannot read). I don't really know why a competitor would want to compete here, but they could.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by vbezhenar »

someNameIG wrote: post #62
leetharris wrote: post #15

Weird how the title says, "macOS Sequoia is available today, bringing iPhone Mirroring, Apple Intelligence, and more to Mac" Then you look at the paragraph for this and it says, "Coming Soon: Apple Intelligence" They announced this in June, and it's just loosely coming "this fall." I have a feeling they are finding it very difficult to do anything with any kind of consistency or value on their 8gb RAM phones / Macboo…

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I think it's actually easier on macOS because you can just swap everything if necessary. For some reason I don't understand, iOS does not employ swap, so while it can kill background apps, it can't kill foreground app.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by [deleted] »

leetharris wrote: post #15

Weird how the title says, "macOS Sequoia is available today, bringing iPhone Mirroring, Apple Intelligence, and more to Mac" Then you look at the paragraph for this and it says, "Coming Soon: Apple Intelligence" They announced this in June, and it's just loosely coming "this fall." I have a feeling they are finding it very difficult to do anything with any kind of consistency or value on their 8gb RAM phones / Macboo…

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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by kccqzy »

_lvbh wrote: post #75

Although I don’t use MacOS, the fact that you can now control an iPhone from a Mac will probably be reverse engineered to allow Linux to do the same at some point. A lot of automation opportunities

Bot farms will love that. A lot of websites are using reCAPTCHA and similar to prevent automation, but a lot of apps do not have anything similar. Maybe they do a jailbreak check and that's it.
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