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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by minot »

Retr0id wrote: post #89
leetharris wrote: post #15

Weird how the title says, "macOS Sequoia is available today, bringing iPhone Mirroring, Apple Intelligence, and more to Mac" Then you look at the paragraph for this and it says, "Coming Soon: Apple Intelligence" They announced this in June, and it's just loosely coming "this fall." I have a feeling they are finding it very difficult to do anything with any kind of consistency or value on their 8gb RAM phones / Macboo…

I wouldn't be surprised if they're struggling full-stop. Doing anything with "apple-level" polish and reliability on current-gen LLMs is a challenge. It looks great in demos and maybe even 95% of real-world use cases, but the remaining 5% tends to be embarrassing. And it's not just a case of "the last 5% takes 95% of the work", it's more like "the last 5% is an open research problem".

> "the last 5% is an open research problem".

That is the biggest hurdle, in my opinion. If we could even reply with, "sorry, I don't know about that", it would be such an improvement over what we have today. Sadly, from what I understand, the only way to say "sorry, I don't know about that" is to just say that to every single question?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by eli »

bredren wrote: post #44
leetharris wrote: post #15

Weird how the title says, "macOS Sequoia is available today, bringing iPhone Mirroring, Apple Intelligence, and more to Mac" Then you look at the paragraph for this and it says, "Coming Soon: Apple Intelligence" They announced this in June, and it's just loosely coming "this fall." I have a feeling they are finding it very difficult to do anything with any kind of consistency or value on their 8gb RAM phones / Macboo…

A commonly cited analyst described lower than expected sales of iPhone 16 Pro due to AI features not rolling out until October. https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/15/iphone-16-pro-demand-es... I find that a little hard to believe. I would suppose the vast majority of customers don't think a lot about the timing of software features in a purchase decision.

If you're not interested in AI features I'm not sure why you would wait at all rather than just buy a 15 Pro

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by Cyberdog »

lwhi wrote: post #71

Literally nothing I care about. As a web developer I'd be happy if Safari usage fell off a cliff.

As a web developer, specifically one who started my professional career when Internet Explorer 6 had something like 85% marketshare, I'm horrified at the idea of a single browser engine dominating the space again. It will lead to stagnation just as it did back then.

Keep WebKit alive. Open source Presto. Support Ladybird. Hell, I believe that Microsoft should never have abandoned Trident…

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by mattl »

avidphantasm wrote: post #112
llm_nerd wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS 18.1 and macOS 15.1 -- the versions with the full Apple Intelligence -- are both in betas, and there are enormous numbers of people blogging and vlogging about their experiences. And yes we all realize that on-device models aren't going to be competing with trillion parameter models, but people are finding it pretty useful. They just don't feel like it's release ready so they're refining. Apple has done this with…

Unless it can be completely turned off I will never upgrade and I guess I will be selling my year-old M3 Max in favor of some shitty PC (or I’ll eventually just run Asahi once it supports my hardware well).

You can turn it off very easily.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by z5h »

torstenvl wrote: post #40
modeless wrote: post #3

Window tiling! If you drag a single window to the top does it maximize, and unmaximize when you drag it away? That's been my most wanted feature in macOS since forever (yes I have tried the third party ones). I don't really care about tiling multiple windows, but I've always hated the macOS full screen behavior, and before that the old green button behavior, so an alternative that finally works well (the way Windows…

I don't know which ones you've tried, but the most popular ones (Magnet and Rectangle) have worked perfectly for me for years. I routinely forget that I have Rectangle installed.

I have to use XQuartz for some apps I run in macOS. Magnet (and other apps I've tried) don't understand those windows. ShiftIt does, but it's buggy and no longer maintained.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by agys »

NetOpWibby wrote: post #109
skydhash wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rectangle is as mandatory on macOS as VLC was on windows.

PresButan is mandatory for me on macOS so I can make the Delete/Backspace key delete files.

Genuine q: is cmd–backspace too much? I’m in general pretty satisfied with the Finder keyboard navigation/editing. Especially with “enter” for rename, copy/paste/cut/move and deletion too…

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by avidphantasm »

dcre wrote: post #116
avidphantasm wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless it can be completely turned off I will never upgrade and I guess I will be selling my year-old M3 Max in favor of some shitty PC (or I’ll eventually just run Asahi once it supports my hardware well).

Why is this the line for you? macOS is already doing plenty of things it sounds like you wouldn't like.

I don’t want an LLM taking 8GB of RAM to do things I don’t value.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by cflewis »

llm_nerd wrote: post #50
leetharris wrote: post #15

Weird how the title says, "macOS Sequoia is available today, bringing iPhone Mirroring, Apple Intelligence, and more to Mac" Then you look at the paragraph for this and it says, "Coming Soon: Apple Intelligence" They announced this in June, and it's just loosely coming "this fall." I have a feeling they are finding it very difficult to do anything with any kind of consistency or value on their 8gb RAM phones / Macboo…

iOS 18.1 and macOS 15.1 -- the versions with the full Apple Intelligence -- are both in betas, and there are enormous numbers of people blogging and vlogging about their experiences. And yes we all realize that on-device models aren't going to be competing with trillion parameter models, but people are finding it pretty useful. They just don't feel like it's release ready so they're refining. Apple has done this with…

At least in Photos, the model is not what one would consider working. A quick example: "Halloween with [x]" works, because Halloween is recognized as a specific date. It works well. Christmas throws it for a loop. Christmas isn't thought of as a time but a state. So it'll show photos that look appropriately Christmassy, but the picks appear semi-random: it'll show one of about five taken in quick succession, but the one it picks is someone wearing a Santa hat in profile, but the other 4 are straight on and one would think more likely to be returned.

I don't think anyone can say with a straight face that being unable to properly grok the biggest holiday of the year for many Western countries is sufficient.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by quenix »

NotPractical wrote: post #93
jjice wrote: post #4

> With many of the Apple Intelligence models running entirely on device, as well as the introduction of Private Cloud Compute — which extends the privacy and security of Apple devices into the cloud to unlock even more intelligence — Apple Intelligence introduces an extraordinary step forward for privacy in artificial intelligence. They've said this in every mention of Apple AI since the WWDC, but they haven't mentio…

You seriously can't disable Private Cloud Compute or Apple Intelligence on iOS??

You can disable the entirety of Apple Intelligence.

You can't enable Apple Intelligence and disable PCC, though.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by whyenot »

andrewinardeer wrote: post #88
llm_nerd wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS 18.1 and macOS 15.1 -- the versions with the full Apple Intelligence -- are both in betas, and there are enormous numbers of people blogging and vlogging about their experiences. And yes we all realize that on-device models aren't going to be competing with trillion parameter models, but people are finding it pretty useful. They just don't feel like it's release ready so they're refining. Apple has done this with…

'perfected' is an interesting word choice. I'd be more inclined to use 'iterated'.

"iterated" implies that there is no improvement. Why do you thing 15.1 wouldn't be an improvement over 15.0? I do agree with you that "perfected" is also not the correct word choice. I think I would have gone with "refined" or "improved"
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