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Re: Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

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Demanding that folks work in the office 5 days a week does not make sense. Might be an extreme take but, I think engineers have some onus to stop agreeing to work there, lest the amazon corporate culture spreads further.

Engineers on a work visa don’t have that much leeway to strong-arm Amazon on such a decision.

Re: Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

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I'm very close to being completely done with tech. This whole career has been stressful and the ROI is debatable

Did you start your career before covid? If not, didn't you already experience and endure 5 days a week in the office and not quit your career?

Don't you think experiencing years of a different world might change someone's opinion?

Re: Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

#263

They say the policy goes into effect January 2025, but I'd expect some managers will try to get their teams in sooner for appearances since in the same post he mentions reducing bureaucracy and in turn the number of managers.

Given that finding a job takes time in the current market, January 2025 essentially mean that people who don't like the policy should start looking right now.

Re: Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

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Genuine question for the folks over at Amazon: What is the value of working at Amazon (or even just AWS) these days? Every now and then I get a ring from a recruiter gauging my interest and sometimes I get the itch to just to go through the process so that I can have a FAANG in my resume. I've heard from others that Amazon could be an amazing place to work, citing fantastic colleagues and work opportunities. But then…

It's for those for whom want a guaranteed good amount of money and work their ass off for it. They're competing with startups where you work your ass off for mediocre pay instead and a moonshot at equity with a ton of value. Every other FAANG is going to have their problems, with the only one that I haven't really been able to identify serious downsides being Netflix.

> Every other FAANG is going to have their problems, with the only one that I haven't really been able to identify serious downsides being Netflix.

Justify your existence every quarter or catch a pinkslip. Wicked good payouts, though -- roommate in college ended up there and was straight up cash. He loved it until he didn't and vanished promptly.

Re: Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

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Genuine question for the folks over at Amazon: What is the value of working at Amazon (or even just AWS) these days? Every now and then I get a ring from a recruiter gauging my interest and sometimes I get the itch to just to go through the process so that I can have a FAANG in my resume. I've heard from others that Amazon could be an amazing place to work, citing fantastic colleagues and work opportunities. But then…

> Perhaps a better question is - if one can get an offer at other FAANGs and the equivalents... is there a reason to choose Amazon over others? People on blind say facebook is pretty similar with the hire to fire culture

I have not interviewed at either company, but Meta is known to be harder to get into and pay quite a bit more than Amazon. I imagine they treat their employees quite a bit better as well, though i'm sure expectations are still high, like they are at all FAANGs.

Re: Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

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Genuine question for the folks over at Amazon: What is the value of working at Amazon (or even just AWS) these days? Every now and then I get a ring from a recruiter gauging my interest and sometimes I get the itch to just to go through the process so that I can have a FAANG in my resume. I've heard from others that Amazon could be an amazing place to work, citing fantastic colleagues and work opportunities. But then…

In Europe they're one of the biggest tech employers. Relatively low hiring bar, one of the better paying, and generally stable job unless you're really bad.

Re: Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

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>Training yourself to work a solid 8 hours at the office without distraction should allow you to leap over others who've gotten lazy sitting at home.

What in the corporate HR flyer is this?

"We think you need a hallmonitor to actually work, also you'll appreciate that we give you one"

I returned to office years ago. I need the ability to move hardware between employees with less than a day turnaround. But you will never convince me for a second that loosing my private office was an improvement.

Re: Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

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What is the best way to handle this if you are unwilling to return? Wait to get fired? Resign? Hope they make an exception for you?

Run it by your supervisor. When I worked as a developer at Amazon, pre-pandemic, I worked from home whenever I wanted, which was mostly one or two days a week. If your manager won't let you flex, consider switching teams.

Re: Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

#270

What is the best way to handle this if you are unwilling to return? Wait to get fired? Resign? Hope they make an exception for you?

> Wait to get fired? Resign?

Job market is bad right now. Probably why AWS felt they could do this currently.

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