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Bitcoin puzzle #66 was solved: 6.6 BTC (~$400k) withdrawn

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Re: Bitcoin puzzle #66 was solved: 6.6 BTC (~$400k) withdrawn

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the problem of finding discrete logarithms is the same problem as breaking elliptic curve cryptography.

Technically, while the two problems share the same name, the one on elliptic curves is matematically different from the one over finite fields modulo a prime number.

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Private mempool transaction

I’m a relatively smart person, probably above average, but glad bitcoin hasn’t taken over banking because I don’t understand any of this.

You can run your own node and then mine the transaction into the block or use private pools.

Look up MEV

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If you want to prove that somebody has the ability to pick locks in order to protect your valuables, you leave the prize sitting on the kitchen table (at 66 bits of entropy) behind your relatively easy front door lock, not in a secure vault with triple redundant mechanisms. Somebody with the solution is going to be able to claim the money in far, far less computing time than they could claim a larger prize by breakin…

Except they don't need to take it now, just before anyone else does.

In other words, anyone else with access to the same computing power, and part of the conspiracy

Re: Bitcoin puzzle #66 was solved: 6.6 BTC (~$400k) withdrawn

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Am I correct in assuming that beyond a certain point, this is basically an existence proof for somebody having a quantum-supreme solution to Shor's Algorithm? "Here's $400,000 sitting on the table, hope nobody takes it" which triggers an alarm telling us to replace all our old prequantum cryptography.

That, or it is a trap to catch time travelers. :)

If someone solves Puzzle #72 before #67 it would be quite impressive ;-)

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This is another useful example to have handy against the canard: "You're only skeptical of cryptocurrencies/blockchain because you haven't learned enough about how they work." I believe the correlation is the other way around... at least once you get past some early local maxima near "people who don't understand how money can be in a computer." P.S.: To digress (rant) a bit: The linchpin is whether your system needs…

This attack wouldn't have worked in a mining free, fee-less cryptocurrency with sub-second confirmation times (ie, block lattice). The only reason we're still talking about BTC is bag-holders. It's vastly technologically inferior on every metric. Talking about BTC's failures as if they exemplify cryptocurrency is just like attacking solar panels on the basis of whale oil's flaws.

How is this "block lattice" secured?

Re: Bitcoin puzzle #66 was solved: 6.6 BTC (~$400k) withdrawn

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So exponential increase in difficulty, linear increase in reward. Unless the price goes exponential too! (Which was the case for a while)

My take on this [0] is that Bitcoin price was growing exponentially with demand, or more exactly with the expected future demand. Cryptocurrency always have had a lot of speculation behind them, not unlike any startup, and that is OK. As shown by the graph [0], adoption slowed down after 2016 when BTC blocks got consistently full and transaction fees rose to $50 and more. I believe if BTC had scaled to support more t…

I think you're describing Bitcoin Cash, but AFAIK it's worth less than original BTC. What you're not considering is the brand value of BTC being the first and most famous crypto currency.

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>Or whoever created the puzzles leaking their information. Or getting hacked. This is super common among people who are known to have high value wallets. Between physical attacks and zero days in everyday software, there's no chance to stay safe when you put that kind of target on your back.

> there's no chance to stay safe when you put that kind of target on your back. Vitalik Buterin seems to be a counter example here, his net worth peaked around $1.46 billion. He has some interesting writing on how he stays secure. At one point the SHIBA token sent a huge amount of funds to his cold wallet and he details what he did to securely access those funds: https://decrypt.co/91000/ethereum-founder-vitalik-bute…

I recommend to everyone to take their 12 words, write em 3 times on a piece of paper, cut it into 9 pieces and hide them in places only you’d know

Re: Bitcoin puzzle #66 was solved: 6.6 BTC (~$400k) withdrawn

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If the real puzzle solver didn't see this coming, he kinda does deserve it. Bitcoin blocks takes 10-20 minutes to confirm. This leaves enough time for a bot/human to take over. I am pretty sure he could have contacted a miner/pool and arranged a deal with them.

How could a bot/human steal the funds without knowing the private key? Edit: typo

Ok there is one good explanation for this case that I found in another comment here [0]: the person who found the private key made a transaction moving only part of the full reward, but in doing so exposed the full public key. A was monitoring the puzzle address for activity, picked up the public key, used it to crack the private key quickly and moved the rest of the funds.

Fascinating that the original cracker wouldn't know these details about Bitcoin transactions.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=mrb

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that it's relatively self aware, in particular about energy consumption concerns, is mildly intriguing i think

What's wrong with energy consumption? I think you might be confusing it with greenhouse gas emissions.

How's the electricity you're using produced? ;)
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