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Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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If you think you know who I am, no you don't. I'm leaving major details out. Principal Engineer at one of whatever we're calling the tech companies with ten figure market caps. A couple nice exits from previous jobs. Low seven figure net worth. Married. Lots of friends. In my late 30s to mid 40s. You'd probably recognize some of my projects. I was in a gifted and talented program for a while as a kid. Tested at 99.9t…

Hey friend - check out dissociation and that realm. It’s one of the things that often comes out of trauma, and allows us the superpower to be who we need to be to survive and even thrive, but can carry big deficits in self image and ability to handle our emotions.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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I never heard of the ACE score, I just took a quiz and I would score a 6. I am a failure since high school, never went to college and had a period of 12 years of scraping the bottom of the barrel but I got a tech support job through a friend after not touching a computer for 15 years and then retaught myself programming after not doing any since middle school. managed to leverage that into a job at a quant trading fi…

You sound successful relative to where you could have ended up.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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ACE 0. Feels abnormal looking at everyone here. I don't consider myself that successful. Very average or below in career and also extremely below average in life outside of work. Not very many friends, never been in a relationship (I'm old). Maybe some trauma really is needed in your childhood to produce more drive. I'm wondering what's the distribution of ACE.

> Maybe some trauma really is needed in your childhood to produce more drive. No. You’re missing the people who don’t post on here, which are those who have died, those who are suffering too much to spend time here. This is a high privilege forum on average, and that there are success stories doesn’t mean it’s somehow good. Ask any one of us what we thought we could have achieved with a supportive “good enough” child…

>No. You’re missing the people who don’t post on here, which are those who have died, those who are suffering too much to spend time here. This is a high privilege forum on average, and that there are success stories doesn’t mean it’s somehow good. Ask any one of us what we thought we could have achieved with a supportive “good enough” childhood and often you’ll get tears.

So you say. I still want data to back that up. What's the distribution? I probably can't get a value about how good people with an ACE of zero ended up.

But I can see a distribution and thus I can see which ACE number is at the tip top of the curve.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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My score was 7.

I have ADHD, autism, and dyslexia, but luckily a >140 iq on a good day. I’ve suffered from depression at times, was incarcerated as a juvenile and an adult. Had a physical and mentally abusive father. I was also a convicted felon at 15/16 and again at 18 years old. Was an alcoholic before being legally allowed to drink. The list goes on.

That said life is great, I’ve exceeded all expectations my parents, family and educators had for me(the bar was low). I own my home, happily married and raising a daughter. I work at a FANG company and have a pretty decent net worth. Have traveled to almost 40 countries and feel like I add value to the world on most days. I even serve on the board of a non profit.

I would never say these things made my life any easier by any stretch but I learned to cope and it made me a “strong” person, in that I have confidence I can overcome just about anything and I don’t really fear much of anything that life can throw at me.

The one thing that’s crippling at times, being through all that with a photographic memory. Closing my eyes to go to sleep at night is hard… every single day.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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ACE 0. Feels abnormal looking at everyone here. I don't consider myself that successful. Very average or below in career and also extremely below average in life outside of work. Not very many friends, never been in a relationship (I'm old). Maybe some trauma really is needed in your childhood to produce more drive. I'm wondering what's the distribution of ACE.

Woah, I match every element of your description.

To answer the OP directly, I'm not satisfied with my life, and from my ACE score it's obvious that I have no one else to blame but myself.

The CDC website has some stats on ACE distribution [1]:

> ACEs are common. About 64% of adults in the United States reported they had experienced at least one type of ACE before age 18. Nearly one in six (17.3%) adults reported they had experienced four or more types of ACEs."

Interesting that zero ACE is a sort of minority.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/aces/about/index.html

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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ACE score of 7. I am ridiculously happy. I have a wife who loves me, and two (little) kids who want to be around me. A successful and fulfilling career that lets me provide for (and even spoil, sometimes) my family. Multiple side-projects/hobbies/'hustles' that I can pick up or put down at will. Life is really, fantastically, pronoia-inducingly, good. It wasn't always this way, and I owe a LOT to great teachers in my formative years (HS and some college) who encouraged me to get the hell out of the house, city, and state I grew up in, and become my own man far far away from the place and family of my birth.

I'd been on the 'gifted' track since pre-K (I was reading books without pictures by 3, for example, and had read The Hobbit in Kindergarten). I made it out (barely) of one of the worst public middle/highschool systems in the country, and got a 70%+ 4 year scholarship into one of the best. My grandparents (specifically my maternal grandmother, may she RIP) busted all kinds of ass to make up the difference. "Family drama" almost made it to where I couldn't get transport to out-of-state college at the very last minute, and my paternal grandfather (may HE RIP!) showed up out of the blue, helped me throw my things in his truck, and drove me 12 hours one-way so I could attend college (no I did not finish, and dropped out after 4 years; long story)

The fear, doubt, and insecurity of my teens led to quite a bit of learning and growing in my early/mid 20s, and it just got better from there. "Getting the hell out" was the best advice I had gotten, and I am so glad I was able to take it.

My biggest concern these days is how do I grow beyond my damaged upbringing and not just be a "neutral" force in my family's life, but a "good" one. I'd like to be around for any grandkids (shucks, maybe even GREAT grandkids if the health and longevity sciences keep doing their respective things), and a positive presence in their lives too.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully this is not too tangential, but it's something that's been on my mind a bit recently. When you had kids (or I guess anyone who is considering having kids), did you ever fear of "passing down" your trauma? I feel that us tech workers, for all intents and purposes, have "made it," which might best position us in general to overcome and prevent a cycle of trauma to the next generation.

Yes. The fear is real, and 100% more tangible when you're holding your child the first few times. Overcome with love, joy and sadness because you cannot comprehend how anyone could treat someone that they love so deeply in a bad way. I don't think "made it" is the differentiator here. It's more about emotional maturity and acceptance that you're chiefly responsible for another human beings experience of the world: Wh…

Is there a more complete list by someone else?

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really more of a hobby farm. Was a dream of mine for 50 years before we bought it. Incredibly beautiful. My best to you and yours. It can be done!

Great life story. There's nothing that cannot be achieved if you set your sights on it (and persist).

One of my kids calls my childhood a horror story lol. Haven’t told them a lot either.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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ACE Score: 0, therefore I apologise if this is too flippant since I don't suffer the depth of lows of clinical depression provides, although I've been through some unpleasant troughs in my time I'm sure I can't comprehend the potential psychological damage of most ACE scores above mine.

There's a particular line of The Desiderata[0] that says so much in so few words:

no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

It provides armour to me when the negative voices come. It reminds me that I am privileged to be alive at this point in time and help to remind me of the (good kind of) "holy shit" feeling I should have at that realisation.

Some holes are too deep for this to have an effect, but for the shallower ones, this has helped me escape them quicker.

You Have A Right To Be Here!

[0]: https://desiderata.com/desiderata.html

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