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Re: Linux 6.11 Released

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I’m just at awe to see Torvalds still publishing the release notes for Linux kernel.

Wonder what kind of succession is in place. I'd assume there's a legal framework around it to ensure continuity with something so important.

I mean, it's GPL. If something were to happen to him, anyone could just start their own fork. There would likely be some competition between forks for a while before two or three emerge as the successors eventually.

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post #68

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PREEMPT_RT would be a boon for audio/video work, hope it finally goes in. Not everyone who needs it knows they need it, let alone how to compile it, and having it in-tree would massively simplify the process for distros to [re-]package a proper RT kernel.

These kind of schedulers often harm servers' I/O usage. And the opposite it's true too. Server based loads are bad for multimedia/gaming desktops.

Yes, that's why it's a config option; but if the code is in the kernel a distro can package up a preempt-rt kernel by flipping the config flag rather than maintaining an out-of-tree patchset, which is a _much_ lower burden.

Re: Linux 6.11 Released

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wonder what kind of succession is in place. I'd assume there's a legal framework around it to ensure continuity with something so important.

I mean, it's GPL. If something were to happen to him, anyone could just start their own fork. There would likely be some competition between forks for a while before two or three emerge as the successors eventually.

Yes, but also most people would probably not want that to happen to the Linux kernel. That's why people wonder about contingencies.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wonder what kind of succession is in place. I'd assume there's a legal framework around it to ensure continuity with something so important.

I mean, it's GPL. If something were to happen to him, anyone could just start their own fork. There would likely be some competition between forks for a while before two or three emerge as the successors eventually.

Linux is basically a national security issue at this point with how much runs on it. Linus is an interesting dictator because he's not bound to any corporation. I think some kind of kernel throne wars would be terrible for the community and could result in Red Hat or some other corporate overlord owning the kernel (not literally because of trademarks but effectively through the release and mainline).

Re: Linux 6.11 Released

#96
post #36

Can't wait for Ubuntu to drop this into the Oracular beta for a couple of days and pretend like that was tested before release.

Isn’t that the very definition of what an upcoming release should do?

Not at all. It is a poor pattern because they throw a kernel over the wall right before the freeze, then refuse to fix any of the bugs, because of the freeze.

The kernel should go out to general testing as soon as the cycle starts, not right before it ends.

Re: Linux 6.11 Released

#97

6.10 (TEN, the previous one) has been a very problematic release for me, with one desktop running into four major bugs in total: three separate amdgpu bugs resulting in video corruption, hangs and crashes, and now that I'm on 6.10.10 and those seem to be fixed, the system intermittently refuses to come up from sleep mode. Anyone else having similar experience? This is the first time something like that happened in a…

6.10 broke my fedora gaming proton box and I was on holiday at the time and so upset I just nuked it and put windows on it to play games. Now it's only powered on on the weekends to play games and I've moved all my linux needs to a VM on my overspecc'd Mac. I also had an AMDGPU system. 5600X, AMD 6800 GPU, Fedora 40. -> now win11 (which has so much cruft out of the box I am considering nuking it and going back haha)

In college, I used to run bleeding edge. But now...I will only run a bleeding edge system as an immutable distro or on a filesystem with quick rollbacks.

Re: Linux 6.11 Released

#98

6.10 (TEN, the previous one) has been a very problematic release for me, with one desktop running into four major bugs in total: three separate amdgpu bugs resulting in video corruption, hangs and crashes, and now that I'm on 6.10.10 and those seem to be fixed, the system intermittently refuses to come up from sleep mode. Anyone else having similar experience? This is the first time something like that happened in a…

Doing well on a recent AMD, although I didn't upgrade until about 6.10.7 or so.

There were problems on earlier kernels, but they were mostly fixed by a firmware update. Kernel already had support by that time.

Re: Linux 6.11 Released

#99

6.10 (TEN, the previous one) has been a very problematic release for me, with one desktop running into four major bugs in total: three separate amdgpu bugs resulting in video corruption, hangs and crashes, and now that I'm on 6.10.10 and those seem to be fixed, the system intermittently refuses to come up from sleep mode. Anyone else having similar experience? This is the first time something like that happened in a…

Kernel version 6.8 broke suspend ($ systemctl suspend) for me. I run two machines with near identical setups. I upgrade my "preview" machine first before updating my primary machine to test for defects.

If I boot from kernel version 6.5, suspend works fine. Hold shift while your machine is booting and the grub menu will allow you to select a different kernel version.

Re: Linux 6.11 Released

#100

6.10 (TEN, the previous one) has been a very problematic release for me, with one desktop running into four major bugs in total: three separate amdgpu bugs resulting in video corruption, hangs and crashes, and now that I'm on 6.10.10 and those seem to be fixed, the system intermittently refuses to come up from sleep mode. Anyone else having similar experience? This is the first time something like that happened in a…

Ack. AMD gpus broke left and right with this version. Lot of issues reported : https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues

Even the latest Linux kernel 6.11 still have same issues (atleast for me)

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