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Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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ACE is 7. Done more in the social realm and have a lot of friends and close relationships. Prioritized life stability in work over my 20s and early 30s to decent but not overwhelming success by self-teaching coding, but all of it started to unravel and I had to take years off from work to work on trauma, which really decimated my savings, but gave me a new lease on life and I feel like a lot of my traumas are processed now and I can live a real life. I spent most of my 20s remembering maybe a dozen total events from before I was in high school.

I’m currently looking to come back to work after 3 years off which is feeling extremely difficult. Places I apply obviously don’t want to know what I’ve been through, and so I have to fight the assumption that I didn’t have a job because of competence. Nearly went on long term disability but found it so onerous and restrictive I’d have rather died.

Just want to work again at this point so I can have a hope of not retiring poor - I never once expected to live this long.

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7 I’d say the biggest struggle hasn’t been financial independence, overcoming a rough childhood, or getting out of rural hell - it’s been dating. That was set in stone by my genetics being such trash. I’m 34 and only ever had one partner who would only stay with me on the condition that I paid for everything and would receive no emotional support. By most measures, I am far more successful than most people you’d meet…

Are you in your top fitness condition? Most of the times, looking good means being in your top health condition, right body weight and % bodyfat below 13% (for men).

Yes. I’m facially ugly.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

#54
I'm fine today but the decade following high school graduation was really rough for me. Stints of homelessness, substance abuse, depression, run-ins with law enforcement (some deserved, some not). I ended up enlisted in the military to escape my situation and it worked out for me. I'm in AAA games today but have had a good career in software engineering and we could probably retire today if we were willing to move to a LCOL area. But we aren't, because...

Today we have a rich and deep group of close friends, mostly formed around our children, and I pour myself into my family obligations. I'm trying to develop small communities where I live and it's starting to pan out. Again, it's primarily based around our children, but we've developed some lasting connections with a couple of other parents.

I'm currently building a 2D 16-bit platformer with my (twin) daughters, who are 5. I let them pick out some asset packs to use and, once I get this level editor finished, will have them help build levels. My aim is to get it running on a SteamDeck (will just copy the required files over) and let them play it on the TV via the dock. They've seen a bit of Mario and Zelda so far and are curious for more. I figured this way would be a bit more hands-on and they could get some sense of how the sausage gets made.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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I have an ACE score of 6. I vastly benefit from trauma therapy: EMDR, IoPT (constellations), hypnotherapy, somatic experiencing, nonviolent communication. It helped me get out of most of my previous addictions, and I do not need to take any medication. I consider myself to be quite happy, and was able to build secure attachments and bonds.

Which was most helpful? Or if you can't pick one then what were the best two?

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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Beaten, neglected, molested, unsafe, etc. Many family & friends died from drugs, disease, poor life choices. Read books on success & business. Moved out at 16. Taught myself programming and business. Married a hot smart fellow nerd. Got good jobs, bought a business and monetized it. Had fantastic kids. Grateful every day to not be where I woke up. Retired to a farm recently.

Congratulations and thank you for breaking the cycle.

Thanks much. That was indeed my goal.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

#59
My ACE score is 7, but I don't feel like that for 2 reasons:

1. there are some questions that technically I should answer "Yes", but is of milder scale of the spectrum. 2. I occasionally shared my upbringing to other people, and they are all very surprised. Once I shared with a group of "trainee chaplains", the teachers are commenting something like "why I'm describing my experience without the emotion", that is, when I talked about something very sad, I am smiling when saying it out. And they also pointed out that I often are asking "why" when facing different situations. I.e. I tends to become "philosophical".

May be because of my upbringing then, I loved mathematics since I was a kid. I remember myself once said when I was very young, "I love mathematics because it concerns truth, that is independent of our existence, nor the existence of the universe for that matter." In the hindsight, I think it might be some sort of protective mechanism for me to escape from the reality.

But perhaps because of my upbringing, I've taken many detours in life. When I was in secondary school, I have no motivation to study anything, and so my academic results were very bad. Fortunately, I like to read books, and got interested in popular books on math and physics, and also read a lot of computer magazines. That helps me having good grades in those subjects. Eventually I was discovered to be gifted because of physics olympiad. And that changed the course of my life. Had that didn't happen, I'm not sure if I would even got into university, let alone having a PhD.

So in this sense the "gifted" part of your question becomes my ticket to get out of my "hard life".

Unfortunately, life is complicated. First, having a "hard life", I don't have anyone to guide me making good decisions. Like the sort of decisions about making life choices, how to pursue goal in life (or resist the temptation to pursue too many goals), etc. Or work ethics, self-disipline, etc. Raw talent can only help so far, and as I ages I found that while my will can be strong, my body is getting weaker (e.g. can't get too much all nighters anymore.) Finally, I made a fatal mistakes to want to help everyone, including my parents. That puts me into a financial disaster and almost ruined my career and life.

How satisfied am I with my life now? "Thinking" helps. As a christian studying the bible theologically, it does shape my world view in a way I can "let go" and don't dwell in the hardship I had. As a researcher, my "thinking" is my primary value to get a job. A bonus of being a researcher is that I'm far away from home, so that I get much less connected with those negativity back home than in the past, and the change in my wellbeing is noticeable to my wife. Loving "thinking" means I love reading and listening to podcasts, enriching my perspectives in life.

The most fulfilling part of my life is my family, I have a lovely wife, a lovely baby.

Financially we aren't brilliant. But somehow, even as both my wife and I grew up from very poor families, we don't value money too much. I just don't find it motivating to make a ton of money, nor measures my success based on that. (It doesn't mean we don't have financial stress, as supporting a family of 3 including a baby in the UK is quite harsh.)

I feel that your life is getting better, but not to the point you felt satisfied yet. I hope you'll find your satisfaction, and meanwhile, don't worry too much. You have seen many hardships. You're tough and you can handle it when it comes. Don't dwell too much on those that may come though. Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

#60
ACR score of 7 all the people involved in that score are dead save for 1. Don’t have any contact with that person except over a group SMS chat and it’s fine. I’m 48, married, two awesome teenage boys and doing well. Not sure why, all the therapists over the years I’ve seen with my wife are typically just perplexed by me. I do what brings me joy and take care of those that depend on me, that’s it. That strategy has worked out ok so far so I’ll keep doing it until it doesn’t. shrug
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