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Lazarus Group laundered $200M from 25 crypto hacks to fiat

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Re: Lazarus Group laundered $200M from 25 crypto hacks to fiat

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No. Australia's national money laundering assessment [0] is not virtue signalling as a cover for racism. There's a history of money laundering for terrorism, child exploitation, slavery, and drug trafficking. There's also a history of arrests, and government task force projects to try and change that. [0] https://www.austrac.gov.au/business/how-comply-guidance-and-...

What the hell are you talking about and how is it related to what I commented?

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I don't see what's dumb about it. It seems like blacklisting is the digital equivalent of "I don't want to do business with criminals" - I wouldn't knowingly buy anything from a thief, or from a store that knows some of its suppliers are thieves. If law enforcement has seized the property and auctioned it, then the criminals aren't profiting, so I don't mind.

If you don't want to do business with criminals, don't buy crime futures. Because that's essentially what crypto are (unless not held and only purchased on demand for whatever oddball transaction you'd want to do that's neither speculation nor directly related to crime): demand outside of pure speculation (which is certainly by far the biggest part) must be completely dominated by demand for paying ransoms, purchasin…

That is totally absurd.

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Only an American would ever entertain this idea without being at least a bit tongue in cheek about it. The US doesn’t own the Internet.

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A bit of fun ... but my opinion is that a war with decades long ceasefire is common-law armistice. At the very least, stopping shelling is some sort of détente.

I'll admit that "War" is a somewhat colloquial term nowadays, for better or worse.

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To be fair so does most of the traditional banking system.

This was the case maybe 20 years ago, but modern anti money laundering has moved the needle significantly in recent years. Where I live there are now rather strict limits on what consumers can do without subjugating themselves to what's called "Due-diligence". Which is in fact about NOT assuming cleanliness. Know You Customer is all about not blindly assuming your counterparty is honest.

Yup. This also why people should only use fintech banks (Revolut, N26, Bunq, etc) as a checking account and should keep the bulk of their money elsewhere.

Because of the relatively low-friction signup process, fintech banks are extremely trigger happy with account locks, and at that point you have to go through their permanently-overloaded customer service to get your money transferred to another bank, a process that might take months if you’re unlucky.

Re: Lazarus Group laundered $200M from 25 crypto hacks to fiat

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I don't see what's dumb about it. It seems like blacklisting is the digital equivalent of "I don't want to do business with criminals" - I wouldn't knowingly buy anything from a thief, or from a store that knows some of its suppliers are thieves. If law enforcement has seized the property and auctioned it, then the criminals aren't profiting, so I don't mind.

If you don't want to do business with criminals, don't buy crime futures. Because that's essentially what crypto are (unless not held and only purchased on demand for whatever oddball transaction you'd want to do that's neither speculation nor directly related to crime): demand outside of pure speculation (which is certainly by far the biggest part) must be completely dominated by demand for paying ransoms, purchasin…

> demand outside of pure speculation (which is certainly by far the biggest part)

> their value still derives almost exclusively from crime use cases

you contradict your self in your own post

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Another reason why we should only allow Canadian nationals to own real estate in Canada.

What about shell companies? Corporations are people too!

Governments will never remove that - it’s a super important construct to allow everyone except the average citizens to avoid all sorts of taxes.

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Most of the crypto world operates on "assumed clean" (blacklist) thinking so you don't have to fully clean anything.

To be fair so does most of the traditional banking system.

The financial system runs on a soft-whitelist system with extra checking and a shadow banning system.

This is why everyone is always asking everyone to demonstrate the sources of funds in finance.

Obviously it is not 100% effective, but it is somewhat effective. You cannot just jog in from Iran and enroll as a JP Morgan client

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Serious question, if the United States decided to unilaterally cut North Korea off from the Internet, how hard would that be to do? Could we just knock out a few cables? North Korea pretty much only uses the Internet for scams Or to make money in violation of sanctions. They certainly don’t allow their citizens to use it for anything else, and they don’t allow their citizens to leave the country because they would ne…

The land of democracy, ladies and gentlemen. Rights for us, nobody else.

Funny thing about American meddling is that it always comes back to bite the US in the ass. The War of Terror has cost $8 trillion and there's nothing tangible and lasting the US has to show for it. Groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS (esp. their networks across Libya, Iraq, etc.) are offshoots of American meddling in the region, growing healthily despite everything.

Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iran (now a rabid enemy), Iraq, Syria, and Libya, are all failures of that World Police ethos that the US refuses to disengage from.

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How many? Near as I can tell a few drone bombs could accomplish this. We love drone bombing other countries.

Not ones with nuclear weapons. Or one that manufactures all the toys that keep Americans happy.

That’s true, but are they really going to lob their two nukes at Maui just because we drone bomb a few wires? The Kims like being alive.

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US/Canada 2024, $3 billion in fines by US regulators, https://rupakghose.substack.com/p/td-banks-aml-issues-and-fi... > DoJ investigation found.. [banking] business had been used to launder more than $650m between 2016 and 2021 from US fentanyl sales for Chinese crime groups and drug traffickers. Canada 2018, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33918115 > An estimated $5.3 billion of laundered money into B.C. real e…

> Australia

Don't worry, Australia's going to fix that! By making "harming public confidence in the banking system or financial markets" "serious harm" under the upcoming Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024.

And by "fix", I mean "suppress discussion about", of course.

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