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Feel UX: If Apple Won't Innovate The User Experience, Android Designers Will

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Re: Feel UX: If Apple Won't Innovate The User Experience, Android Designers Will

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Post by georgemcbay »

kenrikm wrote: post #22
gurkendoktor wrote: post #18

Okay, only semi on-topic, but I'm curious. Am I the only one who finds this interface interesting, but unbearably ugly? Mostly, the boxes around icons and the form factor of the phone itself. I usually appreciate them all - iOS, Android 4, QNX and the Lumia 800 - but this is hate at first sight. I can't even explain why. Anyone else? I feel weird, like someone who is about to give Inception a rating of 2 on IMDb.

They took almost all of the iOS UX and pasted some new ugly graphics on top. I did not see a single thing that iOS does not do. Drag to reorder, got it, splashscreen info/camera, got it, notifications, got it, even the swipe down from the top for notification center. So TL;DR a leap forward for Android is two steps behind iOS?

"notifications, got it, even the swipe down from the top for notification center."

You lose quite a bit of credibility by suggesting this is something any Android build stole from iOS.

Re: Feel UX: If Apple Won't Innovate The User Experience, Android Designers Will

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Post by radley »

radley wrote: post #26
lucisferre wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of all the screenshots of awesome Linux desktops people post. However, looks nice != good UX

You're not looking deep enough.

Arg - I was hoping you'd figure out that the designers ARE the users and Android gives them a UX that's not permitted on iOS.

But hey, flame on.

Re: Feel UX: If Apple Won't Innovate The User Experience, Android Designers Will

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Post by radley »

fpgeek wrote: post #13
cooldeal wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>New apps on my Xoom tend to be exciting and original. My iPad? More of the same. Can you name a few so that I can try them on my tablet? Also would be helpful if you can point me to a place where the good and new tablet apps are showcased(not just the Play store's Tablet picks) since most apps seem to be phone apps that look terrible on a tablet.

Tablified Market. They do the hard work of going through the Android Market to find the apps that actually work well on Android tablets. More on them here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402037,00.asp A must-have resource for any Android tablet owner.

I looked up our app (HD Widgets) and the info is seriously out of date. It looks like they show the first launch and never follow up.

Re: Feel UX: If Apple Won't Innovate The User Experience, Android Designers Will

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Post by [deleted] »

radley wrote: post #30
ryguytilidie wrote: post #3

What an awful, misleading title. A) Apple is innovating the user experience. The author even specifically says that Apple is far ahead in the game, but doesn't seem to acknowledge that this is precisely because of past innovation. B) It's not even necessarily Apple who have to innovate. There are tons of developers writing libraries for iOS that make UX and user experiences better. Tons of developers meaning more dev…

As a life-long Mac user and Android UI dev there seems to be a distinct pattern forming: 1. Revolutionary services start on iOS. 2. Innovations on common mobile services start on Android and get "finished" later by Apple. There's plenty evidence to support this - almost all new stuff announced by Apple in the last two WWDC were things already done on Android. But they were all unfinished ideas. Apple recognized the u…

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Re: Feel UX: If Apple Won't Innovate The User Experience, Android Designers Will

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Post by notJim »

EternalFury wrote: post #35

There is only 1 kind of innovation a for-profit business needs to worry about: Making a profit. For all those ventures, which often compare themselves to market leaders, it is nothing more than a buzzword.

I hate that this response shows up on every article on HN. It offers no insight whatsoever, as far as I'm concerned. Just because profit is the "only" thing a company cares about [1] doesn't mean it's the only thing worth discussing.

1: As if it's even true that companies only care about profit--you think Steve Jobs was motivated more by money-making itself or by money-making as a vehicle to advance his vision of technology?

Re: Feel UX: If Apple Won't Innovate The User Experience, Android Designers Will

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Post by taligent »

radley wrote: post #30
ryguytilidie wrote: post #3

What an awful, misleading title. A) Apple is innovating the user experience. The author even specifically says that Apple is far ahead in the game, but doesn't seem to acknowledge that this is precisely because of past innovation. B) It's not even necessarily Apple who have to innovate. There are tons of developers writing libraries for iOS that make UX and user experiences better. Tons of developers meaning more dev…

As a life-long Mac user and Android UI dev there seems to be a distinct pattern forming: 1. Revolutionary services start on iOS. 2. Innovations on common mobile services start on Android and get "finished" later by Apple. There's plenty evidence to support this - almost all new stuff announced by Apple in the last two WWDC were things already done on Android. But they were all unfinished ideas. Apple recognized the u…

Please. And almost all of those 'new' ideas on Android have been taken from Palm, Windows Mobile, Newton etc.

Re: Feel UX: If Apple Won't Innovate The User Experience, Android Designers Will

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Post by kenrikm »

georgemcbay wrote: post #31
kenrikm wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They took almost all of the iOS UX and pasted some new ugly graphics on top. I did not see a single thing that iOS does not do. Drag to reorder, got it, splashscreen info/camera, got it, notifications, got it, even the swipe down from the top for notification center. So TL;DR a leap forward for Android is two steps behind iOS?

"notifications, got it, even the swipe down from the top for notification center." You lose quite a bit of credibility by suggesting this is something any Android build stole from iOS.

Maybe I did not make it clear enough, but my point was that the title "If Apple Won't Innovate The User Experience, Android Designers Will" does not make sense since iOS already has the features the they are "innovating" When I hear innovation I expect a completely new way of doing something not makeup slathered on with a trowel.
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