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This doesn't really have to do with yes-men. We're not talking about people who feel negatively about your company , but rather the fact that you run one at all . The kind of scorn the article author talks about is not "oh man, there's no future in (field)", but rather "why in the world would you risk running your own company?!". The latter certainly still calls for a thick skin, but it would help if your closest fri…
If the scorn of others is enough to dissuade you, you will not have success in business.
"I Have a Startup" - Midwest vs Bay Area
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Re: "I Have a Startup" - Midwest vs Bay Area
#22"I have a startup" seems a very ODD way of saying what you do when people ask, anyway. It is almost intentionally oblique. Even as a serial entrepreneur, I would probably have a similar "midwestern" reaction if someone said that when I asked them what they did...it's just a weird, passionless answer. If you ask a person at a big corporation what they do, they don't usually say "I have a job with a big corporation." D…
This is an great point! Saying that you're working on some excellent software and what its trying to do may be the best way to approach the conversation, especially in the midwest... Once you describe what you're doing, then you'll be asked who you work for, and when you say yourself the idea of a startup will be better explained. I'm always hesitant to do so because I feel that describing what project you work on do…
Re: "I Have a Startup" - Midwest vs Bay Area
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
This doesn't really have to do with yes-men. We're not talking about people who feel negatively about your company , but rather the fact that you run one at all . The kind of scorn the article author talks about is not "oh man, there's no future in (field)", but rather "why in the world would you risk running your own company?!". The latter certainly still calls for a thick skin, but it would help if your closest fri…
If the scorn of others is enough to dissuade you, you will not have success in business.
Having the support of the community within the bay area is just one less headache to deal with in conjunction with the many headaches of doing a startup.
Re: "I Have a Startup" - Midwest vs Bay Area
#24In cities like Chicago, there are a handful of VCs that all talk to each other. If you pitch to one and they don't like your idea, they trade notes with their other VC buddies in the area and that's it. Your done. Pack up your bags and head to the next city. I could count the number of funded Chicago web startups with one hand.
In the valley there are so many investors with so much more experience willing to fund ideas that investors from other areas simply wouldn't touch. If you pitch to one guy and he doesn't like it, go pitch to another investor... and another... and another... it will be a while before you exhaust this list.
From my experience the bay area doesn't suffer from the same group think problems that most other areas in the world suffer from; including a sizable city like Chicago.
Re: "I Have a Startup" - Midwest vs Bay Area
#25The big difference is that in the Bay Area, people significantly older than myself still get it. In the Midwest they're still not sure what this newfangled Facebook is all about.
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Respect has to be earned. If one's morale is buttressed by toadies and 'respecting' yes-men who gush about how awesome you are just because of your job title, things are more likely to go off the rails when the sun stops shining. By all means mix with like-minded people, but your morale and motivation shouldn't depend upon whether or not your neighbour thinks you're 'cool'.
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Re: "I Have a Startup" - Midwest vs Bay Area
#28"I have a startup" seems a very ODD way of saying what you do when people ask, anyway. It is almost intentionally oblique. Even as a serial entrepreneur, I would probably have a similar "midwestern" reaction if someone said that when I asked them what they did...it's just a weird, passionless answer. If you ask a person at a big corporation what they do, they don't usually say "I have a job with a big corporation." D…
The assumption is that if starting/running businesses isn't what people with an education do, unless they have no other choice. The "default" thing for them is to climb the corporate ladder.
pg talked about this in his "high-res society": http://www.paulgraham.com/highres.html
In a way I could see where this idea comes from: if you lack a college degree (or have one but not from a top-tier school and not with top grades) you're still locked out of some opportunities. The only way to a high ranking position in some companies is to enter as a "college hire" and advanced through the ranks (senior positions are seldom open to outside applicants and there is fear that an experienced applicant will be bored/unmotivated at a junior or entry-level position; academic record is seen as the "best" indication of potential success for a junior applicant). So for those without a college education, often the only way to a senior position is through start-ups.
What doesn't follow - any more - is that for those with an education the only way to a senior position is through a big company. It's still a way (there are lots of smart people at places such as Google, IBM, Amazon, Yahoo), but no longer the only reliable option. Even those at big companies no longer stay with the same big company: "job-hopping" is pretty common for advancement (sometimes for better, sometimes for worse - seeing less competent employees but with higher salaries due to greater negotiating leverage - can be de-motivating for employees who are uninterested in job hopping themselves).
The only way that this assumption is still slightly true is that only big companies offer the chance to work on certain classes of problems that start-ups can not tackle - but here's hope that this will change (and there are indication it is changing).
Re: "I Have a Startup" - Midwest vs Bay Area
#29One of my favorite quotes: "Being a startup founder in SF is like being an actor/model in LA."
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