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FDA Authorizes First Over-the-Counter Hearing Aid Software

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Post by joquarky »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #174
jajko wrote: post #133

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As mentioned elsewhere you can't tweak its setting outside Apple's walled garden. Better wait for more open competition to catch up unless you are already deep in their ecosystem and not intending to move.

Do you need your own iphone, or can you use a friend's iphone to fix the settings once?

I was able to use my partner's iPhone to configure some settings.

It's frustrating that the settings can't be changed on Android, and macOS seems to have a subset of settings compared to iOS.

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Post by geocrasher »

caeril wrote: post #203
skybrian wrote: post #195

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There are already cheap hearing aids. Airpod Pros will grow the market since they’re good for people getting started and okay for occasional use, but they aren’t good for wearing all day: too distracting for people you’re talking with, not enough battery life. But now that Apple entered the market, maybe they will come out with wireless headphones that are more suitable?

[edit] Disregard, I forgot that HN has been infested with normies with poor reading comprehension. Further posts will be strictly technical.

Until wearing Airpods during conversation is normalized, this will be a problem. Why?

I tried conversing with somebody recently, and they were completely ignoring me. Then I saw the Airpods. Of course. They have music or something else going on.

For now, Airpods = "I am listening to something other than you right now." So yes, if somebody were wearing Airpods as a hearing device, I'd probably not talk to them because of that expectation.

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Post by BeetleB »

car wrote: post #66

With the AirPods now officially becoming hearing aids, it will hopefully reduce the stigma and attitude towards hearing aids and allow many more people to realize how bad their hearing actually is. I have been wearing hearing aids for a few years now (Phonak). I've also used the AirPods Pro with the accessibility audiogram feature (basically making them hearing aids), which is really good and has also been around for…

> In contrast, the AirPods run out after a few hours and are also destined to become landfill due to their built in battery.

Just looked up AirPod battery run time. Wow - that's short. I have Anker A40 earpods.[1] 10 hours, and the case has enough charge for 50 hours. 10 minutes of charging gives you 4 hours. They're a lot cheaper than Airpods, so you could easily buy a pair (for much cheaper) and be good!

Not sure how accurate they'll be as hearing aids.

[1]: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1LPNDGF/?tag=thewire06-20&linkC...

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Post by caeril »

roywiggins wrote: post #208
caeril wrote: post #203

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[edit] Disregard, I forgot that HN has been infested with normies with poor reading comprehension. Further posts will be strictly technical.

> you're better off with them not in your life. Offer not valid if it's your in-laws, nurse, kid's teacher, your teacher, civil servant who you need to convince, and overall anyone in a position of authority or otherwise capable of gatekeeping you. You can't always just opt out of dealing with people without consequence.

[edit] Disregard, I forgot that HN has been infested with normies with poor reading comprehension. Further posts will be strictly technical.

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geocrasher wrote: post #212
caeril wrote: post #203

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[edit] Disregard, I forgot that HN has been infested with normies with poor reading comprehension. Further posts will be strictly technical.

Until wearing Airpods during conversation is normalized, this will be a problem. Why? I tried conversing with somebody recently, and they were completely ignoring me. Then I saw the Airpods. Of course. They have music or something else going on. For now, Airpods = "I am listening to something other than you right now." So yes, if somebody were wearing Airpods as a hearing device, I'd probably not talk to them because…

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Re: FDA Authorizes First Over-the-Counter Hearing Aid Software

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Post by pdabbadabba »

caeril wrote: post #203
skybrian wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are already cheap hearing aids. Airpod Pros will grow the market since they’re good for people getting started and okay for occasional use, but they aren’t good for wearing all day: too distracting for people you’re talking with, not enough battery life. But now that Apple entered the market, maybe they will come out with wireless headphones that are more suitable?

[edit] Disregard, I forgot that HN has been infested with normies with poor reading comprehension. Further posts will be strictly technical.

I have bad news for you. Everyone judges people for these sorts of fashion choices (though perhaps not that specific one). Though some will do so more harshly than others, of course, and some enlightened folks will manage never, or rarely, to manifest or act on these judgments. And you'll absolutely never convince me that you don't make the same kinds of snap judgments about people based on things like what they're wearing.

It's healthy not to care too much about the fashion judgments of others, as you're suggesting. Is I agree with your first line. But you're otherwise bringing too black-and-white an approach to what is, in my view, an unavoidable part of social life.

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> Disregard, I forgot that HN has been infested with normies with poor reading comprehension.

OK. You object strenuously to anyone making any sort of judgment about a person wearing AirPods, all of whom should be completely cut out of your life, but are happy to throw out baseless insults at people who disagree with you in the mildest of terms on the internet. Got it.

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Post by pdabbadabba »

caeril wrote: post #214
roywiggins wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're better off with them not in your life. Offer not valid if it's your in-laws, nurse, kid's teacher, your teacher, civil servant who you need to convince, and overall anyone in a position of authority or otherwise capable of gatekeeping you. You can't always just opt out of dealing with people without consequence.

[edit] Disregard, I forgot that HN has been infested with normies with poor reading comprehension. Further posts will be strictly technical.

> We've homeschooled before, and it would be trivial to pull them (and a small portion of the district's funding with them) and do it again, and they know it.

You'd homeschool your kids because their teachers find it odd that you're wearing AirPods during a conversation? To each his own, I guess.

> Nurse? If they commit intentional malpractice, my attorney is ready to go.

In what world does subtly judging you for wearing AirPods during a conversation qualify as malpractice?

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Post by hooverd »

autoexec wrote: post #178
stevesimmons wrote: post #87

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So FCA regulation of CPAP machines just gets in the way of people getting what they need? How about Philips Respironics have to recall something like 15 million CPAP devices in 2021 because they contained foam liable to disintegrate and which the user would then inhale...

Yeah, if anything that showed we need more regulation and even more importantly a better justice system. They knew their devices were going to cause cancer and kill people, and they not only continued to sell their devices, but they went out of their way to try to hide the facts from the public so that they could continue to kill as many people as possible. The people at Philips Respironics were/are literal serial ki…

Eh, we need better regulation. Regulation proponents should distinguish between bullshit hoops that only the big boys can jump through vs targeted regulations that prevent this kind of thing from happening.

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Post by detourdog »

currency wrote: post #204
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #174

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Do you need your own iphone, or can you use a friend's iphone to fix the settings once?

It probably should be your own device; the audiogram ends up in the iPhone's health app. It can probably be done by someone else if they don't care and don't need to apply a different audiogram for themselves.

That is some nice integration. Having one’s own up to date audiogram stored in a health record and available to doctors and devices.

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Post by vitorbaptistaa »

spookie wrote: post #75
car wrote: post #66

With the AirPods now officially becoming hearing aids, it will hopefully reduce the stigma and attitude towards hearing aids and allow many more people to realize how bad their hearing actually is. I have been wearing hearing aids for a few years now (Phonak). I've also used the AirPods Pro with the accessibility audiogram feature (basically making them hearing aids), which is really good and has also been around for…

I have got to say it was fantastic seeing my grandmas eyes glow when, for no reason, I thought "wait my xm4's could help her" and put them on her. She was then able to hear our conversations even though the xm4 are not as good the real thing. She didnt want hearing aids before that, but afterwards she wanted ones.

The Sony WH-1000XM4? I'm still on the Bose QC 35, but you got me curious. Could you explain how using it as a hearing aid works? I searched the web but couldn't find good references.
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