Funny to think that the distillation of 16 years of Facebook posts is now considered "intelligence."
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Facebook scraped every Australian adult user's public posts to train AI
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Re: Facebook scraped every Australian adult user's public posts to train AI
#42Honestly this feels like a better policy than most AI training - Meta actually has explicit rights to the content it is using. Sure it was EULA click-through but at least it's something that the content creator ostensibly agreed to.
Of course I'm sure Meta is also training their AI on content that they scraped from the internet/other sources without permission...
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#44Funny to think that the distillation of 16 years of Facebook posts is now considered "intelligence."
I wonder how much safety work they have to do specifically because of this. I’d imagine their model might have a fairly paranoid, slightly racist bias if not. Particularly as younger demographics shifted away from FB in the last decade.
With suitable sentiment analysis, you can train known bigoted models and then run unknown input through them to see if it appeals to the model.
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#45It's OK. Meta is training their AI on hundreds of thousands of posts with photos of veterans with toilet plunger legs celebrating their birthdays in the middle of the street while sitting as sturdy as the Lincoln memorial. The AI brain rot has already begun in this model.
I am truly impressed by how quickly AI generated content has filled up every public space. We've gone from "AI is the future!" to a digital Kessler's syndrome in a short few years.
Re: Facebook scraped every Australian adult user's public posts to train AI
#46Well they don't really know if someone is an adult or not. Just because they say they are 13 doesn't mean that they really were when they signed up. And 13 is hardly an adult now is it?
Is this an important distinction?
Yep. For reasons of propriety, for one thing. But also because the data protection laws get especially opinionated about what you do with kids’ speech, and one line they draw is at age 13. The American variant, COPPA, dates back to 2000, and requires verifiable parental consent to process the data of under-13s.
No idea if that matters retrospectively in legal terms—it’s seems to me that the main problem was providing service to the kids in the first place—but it’s icky either way. Then again there’s an ickiness to the entire project of pretending casual users’ arcane permissions settings from 15 years ago indicate affirmative consent today…
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#47I don't understand how this surprises anyone. You choose to give them your data. It's not free. If you don't want them to have your data, don't give it away.
Right, and in exchange users received rather a lot of services for free... photo and video storage etc as just one example, Llama is free to use, etc etc.
While I've no sympathy for mishandling private user data as Meta has of course been guilty of in the past, I think users getting 16 years of free service in exchange for their public posts being used in this fashion is not that bad of a deal.
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#48Why is this surprising? They’ve always done this. In fact I’d be surprised if they didn’t do this. Fwiw - llama is free to use. So I guess it’s a good enough return. I don’t use Facebook. I’m not sure if they can peek into WhatsApp messages.
> Why is this surprising? They’ve always done this. In fact I’d be surprised if they didn’t do this.
This is such an unconstructive attitude. This is the first time they have publicly admitted it.
Re: Facebook scraped every Australian adult user's public posts to train AI
#49Funny to think that the distillation of 16 years of Facebook posts is now considered "intelligence."
It's... really not. Despite what some people seem to think, most of the 3 billion+ Facebook users are normal people who aren't just posting nonsense or memes.
Re: Facebook scraped every Australian adult user's public posts to train AI
#50Funny to think that the distillation of 16 years of Facebook posts is now considered "intelligence."
It's... really not. Despite what some people seem to think, most of the 3 billion+ Facebook users are normal people who aren't just posting nonsense or memes.
Their algorithm sure does a good job at filtering those normal people out...