The build timelapse is fun given that the light/shadow gives a strong additional sense of assembly duration.
DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also at least as expensive as more advanced machines you can buy already-assembled. If this was half the price, I might be interested. But if I wanted a coffee maker with open source control, I'd probably just hack an existing cheaper product. And I'm someone who absolutely loves assembling stuff from kits! Heck, I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already got Doom running on a Sage.
It's also at least as expensive as more advanced machines you can buy already-assembled. Exactly. The parent post mentions this being "the wrong solution to the problem", but I don't know what the problem is this product is addressing. E61 machines are well understood and diagrammed with (somewhat) interchangeable parts. If this product appeals to you, you can buy a cheaper/similarly priced machine, take it apart and…
And also branded machine got QC before going to my home, instead I’d not trust myself to do anything related to the boilers
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also at least as expensive as more advanced machines you can buy already-assembled. If this was half the price, I might be interested. But if I wanted a coffee maker with open source control, I'd probably just hack an existing cheaper product. And I'm someone who absolutely loves assembling stuff from kits! Heck, I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already got Doom running on a Sage.
It's also at least as expensive as more advanced machines you can buy already-assembled. Exactly. The parent post mentions this being "the wrong solution to the problem", but I don't know what the problem is this product is addressing. E61 machines are well understood and diagrammed with (somewhat) interchangeable parts. If this product appeals to you, you can buy a cheaper/similarly priced machine, take it apart and…
Oh, don't get me started on what the problem is :D
* Espresso machine electronics are very proprietary. There's basically one manufacturer, no published schematics and very closed firmwares.
* That one manufacturer's hardware occasionally breaks and needs replacement, and they charge up the wazoo for it.
* Firmware updates is not a thing. Buying a new controller with the new firmware is your only option.
* Espresso machine electronics hardware is pretty firmly stuck in the past. If you're lucky you have a 128x64 px OLED, but more likely you have LED indicators, 7 segment displays, or graphical LCDs.
There are absolutely exceptions to this, but for 95% of the espresso machines out there, you're definitely not getting the full potential of the hardware.
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#164I’m not a really avid espresso person but IMO any decent espresso machine could do the job, the real deal is the coffee grinder. Invest in the highly precision grinder could up scale your espresso shots without an expressive coffee machine.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
So are coffee from a 250 EUR "espresso" machine and a higher-end one
No, coffee from a 250 EUR espresso machine and a higher end machine are still espresso. Stovetop doesn't make espresso coffee. They are fundamentally different processes which product a completely different output.
I don't disagree that a moka pot and espresso are completely different processes, I'm saying that a 250 EUR espresso machine is not going to be capable of making actual espresso (barring stuff like Flair that takes away components to make it work).
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#166Got hit with a popup to signup to something before I could even read their "splash" message, jesus christ
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#167I am the “self-upgrade my hardware” type. If there’s one piece of advice I didn’t listen to it’s “just buy the nicer machine” for espresso. While it’s fun that I got to upgrade the parts and make it better. It also cost me just as much money. The tinker aspect only involves a few simple upgrades on my Gaggia Classic Pro.
But what I didn’t realize is that espresso machines, much like other consumer hobbies was already a fairly expensive area to get invested. You get the machine but then you need a grinder, a milk steaming container, the beans, the tamper, the portafilter mesh screen, a deeper basket, bottomless portafilter, the “better” steamer tip for the wand... On and on you can invest money in this consumer hobby, middle man cornered market. Do you have the special tool to loosen your grounds if you didn’t tamp correctly? You’ll use it once or twice before just dumping out the grounds instead.
I have definitely reached my financial limit on the coffee experience. And most of the extra crap I bought bundled. At some point if I continue investing, I would not be saving money from buying a $3 cup of coffee from the cafe and the awkward barista waiting for me to tap the tip screen.
When I sell I’ll probably just buy a moka pot and milk steamer of some sort instead.
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#168Is this a single boiler or hx design?
Had a gaggia classic for a couple of years and I would never go back to single boiler.
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also at least as expensive as more advanced machines you can buy already-assembled. Exactly. The parent post mentions this being "the wrong solution to the problem", but I don't know what the problem is this product is addressing. E61 machines are well understood and diagrammed with (somewhat) interchangeable parts. If this product appeals to you, you can buy a cheaper/similarly priced machine, take it apart and…
Oh, don't get me started on what the problem is :D * Espresso machine electronics are very proprietary. There's basically one manufacturer, no published schematics and very closed firmwares. * That one manufacturer's hardware occasionally breaks and needs replacement, and they charge up the wazoo for it. * Firmware updates is not a thing. Buying a new controller with the new firmware is your only option. * Espresso m…
Which one manufacturer do you have in mind?
Perhaps you're thinking of the commercial market and I'm thinking of consumer, but there's been a lot of really interesting developments in the last few years at the intersection of affordable and high quality output -- I own a plus Bambino plus now, for example, which is simply a delightful machine, though I too wish I could modify the firmware.
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#170Is this a single boiler or hx design? Had a gaggia classic for a couple of years and I would never go back to single boiler.
i wonder if the community can figure a bolt on double boiler solution for this easily?