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Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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Post by stiray »

oslem wrote: post #118
stiray wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong narative. I love espresso. But comparing it with 250 euro espresso machine, I highly doubt that it will make 500% better coffee, for wast majority of the owners, cleaning one And I am not saying that any other mentioned "mid range" espresso machine is worth that money.

You could make the same argument about a 250 euro espresso machine and a 30 euro moka pot. If the materials are better and the buyer likes it, it’s worth it to them at least. I think most people who own an espresso machine understand it’s a luxury.

It is a different type of coffee, you cant compare.

And "understanding it is a luxury" is why the prices are extreme.

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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Post by Wheaties466 »

stiray wrote: post #115
klausa wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, 1250 euros is a lot of money, but that is very much on the lower end of prices for mid-range espresso machines. If you don't like espresso and don't find it valuable, that's fine!

Wrong narative. I love espresso. But comparing it with 250 euro espresso machine, I highly doubt that it will make 500% better coffee, for wast majority of the owners, cleaning one And I am not saying that any other mentioned "mid range" espresso machine is worth that money.

i can tell you that more often than not it will make 500% better espresso.

I've owned 5 machines from varying price categories and the number of features you get with a machine around ~1200 gets you the most consistent experience.

can you make a good shot of espresso with a ~250 euro machine? absolutely. can you make 2-5 back to back great shots? probably not. Can you use any bean you want and get a good shot? probably not.

its all about what you value in your experience.

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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Post by timvdalen »

bongobingo1 wrote: post #120
oslem wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could make the same argument about a 250 euro espresso machine and a 30 euro moka pot. If the materials are better and the buyer likes it, it’s worth it to them at least. I think most people who own an espresso machine understand it’s a luxury.

Moka and espresso machines produce different coffee though. They operate on the same principle but the pressures are much different.

So are coffee from a 250 EUR "espresso" machine and a higher-end one

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

#125

Post by stiray »

Wheaties466 wrote: post #122
stiray wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong narative. I love espresso. But comparing it with 250 euro espresso machine, I highly doubt that it will make 500% better coffee, for wast majority of the owners, cleaning one And I am not saying that any other mentioned "mid range" espresso machine is worth that money.

i can tell you that more often than not it will make 500% better espresso. I've owned 5 machines from varying price categories and the number of features you get with a machine around ~1200 gets you the most consistent experience. can you make a good shot of espresso with a ~250 euro machine? absolutely. can you make 2-5 back to back great shots? probably not. Can you use any bean you want and get a good shot? probab…

Should I mention audiophiles? The first feeling when you turn on a new system, it will never come back, until you get an arguably better system...

And the rabbit hole is deep. How much did you pay for grinder?

I think this is worth (for espresso lover) far more than 1250 euro machine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTFsBqhpLes&list=PLxz0FjZMVO...

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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Post by klausa »

stiray wrote: post #115
klausa wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, 1250 euros is a lot of money, but that is very much on the lower end of prices for mid-range espresso machines. If you don't like espresso and don't find it valuable, that's fine!

Wrong narative. I love espresso. But comparing it with 250 euro espresso machine, I highly doubt that it will make 500% better coffee, for wast majority of the owners, cleaning one And I am not saying that any other mentioned "mid range" espresso machine is worth that money.

I'd be very curious to see a 250E 58mm espresso machine with anything resembling the temperature stability of an E61.

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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Post by cantSpellSober »

benrutter wrote: post #51

This is very cool! Sidetrack: the website mentions "driving espresso innovation forwards". Is this a thing? I love coffee but mostly just use a french press or a moka pot (which are more "great old school tech" than "innovation")

french press or a moka pot aren't espresso, moka doesn't have the extraction pressure "real" espresso machines have (still quite enjoy them though!).

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

#128

Post by stiray »

timvdalen wrote: post #124
bongobingo1 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moka and espresso machines produce different coffee though. They operate on the same principle but the pressures are much different.

So are coffee from a 250 EUR "espresso" machine and a higher-end one

Actually higher end ones are at 20.000 euros, so I will rather drink my 6666 espressos in bar, made by professional, on 20k euros machine with zero effort. I am good for next 18 years.

Re: DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

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Post by cantSpellSober »

ManDeJan wrote: post #116

A neat project for sure but as it stands this has major safety issues. The control logic is able to lock up and keep the boilers heating element in an forever "on" state till something snaps. I couldn't find a mention of safety in the manual nor see any mechanical safety failsafes in case of overheating.

Yep, love the hacker spirit but the headline reads like "DIY Warhead" to me
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