This is very cool!
Sidetrack: the website mentions "driving espresso innovation forwards". Is this a thing? I love coffee but mostly just use a french press or a moka pot (which are more "great old school tech" than "innovation")
DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine
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#52I love espresso. But I don't think I'd be interested in a DIY option. I tend to use Nespresso, especially now that the cups are simply available in the shop (and cheap aftermarket options), it's pretty perfect. I know the manual process is more environmentally friendly but when I wake up in the morning I have no headspace for fussing with coffee grinds. I just need good coffee right away. And I don't even own a car o…
Well the bigger problem with Nespresso is the coffee/espresso tastes horrible and you have to deal with the waste.
It's not bad, many real espressos I buy in local coffee shops for a euro (This is Spain, things are cheap) are worse.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well the bigger problem with Nespresso is the coffee/espresso tastes horrible and you have to deal with the waste.
Bingo. My barista opinion is that every Nespresso tastes like a Cafe Americano a-la Keurig. You can buy a $4 bag of Cafe Bustelo (pre-ground) and get both better tasting and cheaper espresso. If anyone in this thread is considering a Nespresso/Keurig, I'd highly recommend they consider a similarly-priced espresso machine for multiple reasons. Compared to ESE (easy serve espresso), Nespresso is the Juicero of coffee.
If you make it a long drink yes (which you shouldn't as it overextracts). If you run it on the short program it's pretty strong. At least with local pods here in Spain.
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#54I love espresso. But I don't think I'd be interested in a DIY option. I tend to use Nespresso, especially now that the cups are simply available in the shop (and cheap aftermarket options), it's pretty perfect. I know the manual process is more environmentally friendly but when I wake up in the morning I have no headspace for fussing with coffee grinds. I just need good coffee right away. And I don't even own a car o…
It sounds like you are the perfect customer for them but when your machine craps itself I would suggest checking out something like the Breville Barista models. I have the Pro version which has the grinder built in and I've found it makes far nicer coffees than the pods and there is minimal faffing around due to everything being integrated in the one machine.
I'm not convinced on autogrinders. One of my friends had one (A Jura) of 1000+ euro and the coffee was no better. Eventually the grinder crapped out and the replacement cost 3/4 of the machine price.
He's now drinking Nespresso like me :)
Breville doesn't seem to be a common brand here in Europe but I see it is a lot cheaper. Nothing like the 80 euro of a Nespresso machine though (which has also lasted me 10 years despite never descaling it).
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#55The closest I've gotten to DIY espresso is EspressoForge: https://espressoforge.com/
Man I’d love to get this semi-affordably in Europe. Such a cool product. I use a Cafelat Robot for my morning brew and it’s consistently the highlight of my day. Manual espresso rules
I use a Cafelat Robot in the USA, and I agree it's great. The workflow is simple and streamlined, yet it affords a high degree of control.
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#56I love espresso. But I don't think I'd be interested in a DIY option. I tend to use Nespresso, especially now that the cups are simply available in the shop (and cheap aftermarket options), it's pretty perfect. I know the manual process is more environmentally friendly but when I wake up in the morning I have no headspace for fussing with coffee grinds. I just need good coffee right away. And I don't even own a car o…
Aren't these things one of the most contaminant things you can have in the kitchen? Even the inventor regrets doing it. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/k-cup-creator-john-sylvan-r... Or is this different?
> The first market was the office coffee service market," he said, adding he is "absolutely mystified" by his product's popularity in homes.
After reading this, the invention made a lot more sense. K-cups seem to be a better choice for outside of the home where someone might want a single cup on demand with no prep or cleanup. Like waiting rooms, offices, hotels, etc.
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#57I love espresso. But I don't think I'd be interested in a DIY option. I tend to use Nespresso, especially now that the cups are simply available in the shop (and cheap aftermarket options), it's pretty perfect. I know the manual process is more environmentally friendly but when I wake up in the morning I have no headspace for fussing with coffee grinds. I just need good coffee right away. And I don't even own a car o…
Aren't these things one of the most contaminant things you can have in the kitchen? Even the inventor regrets doing it. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/k-cup-creator-john-sylvan-r... Or is this different?
That's Keurig. We don't have this in Europe.
We do have other plastic pod ones like Nescafe Dolce Gusto. The nespresso one is using aluminium pods.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
To chime in on the litany of reasons why this is not a good idea--sifting boiling water through plastic is not safe for consumption as plastic nano and micro-particles will leech from the plastic into the liquid. This happens by design when using these pods, meaning you are getting a small serving of plastic every morning, alongside your coffee. What a moronic design.
Nespresso cups (even the aftermarket ones these days) are aluminium, not plastic.
The cup itself may be aluminum, but there is a plastic lining on the inside of the cup and on the inside of the lid that keeps the coffee from coming into direct contact with the aluminum--just like in canned foods
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Based upon the sales of Nespresso machines and pods a lot of people seem to disagree with you regarding the taste.
People don't buy Nespresso for the taste, they buy it for the convenience. If it was actually a superior method of serving coffee, then everyone would use it. Alas.
> If it was actually a superior method of serving coffee, then everyone would use it.
If there's anything that "everyone uses" it's the venerable Mr. Coffee 10/12 Cup drip brewers that have dominated the US market for 40+ years. They're popular for many reasons, but today, superior taste isn't one of them.
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#60I recently bought a super automatic machine for only $350, and it doesn't include a steam wand (big plus for someone who never makes milk-based drinks). This seems like a fun project but simple off-the-shelf ones are really coming down in price.