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Re: Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system

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100W via TRS 3.5mm connector? I checked and I didn't even find a power rating for these connectors, but that seems excessive.

Weller uses TRS too. In my experience the connection is a little flaky, but I don’t know the provenance of the lab irons I’ve used; it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve been abused.

https://www.weller-tools.com/us/en/industrial-soldering/prod...

Re: Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system

#112
Meh. Seriously.

Pros:

1. "Portable, sorta"

2. Reasonably high-power

3. Has an accelerometer (as does everything else in its class)

4. "Repairable"

Cons:

1. No Hall effect sensor to detect when iron is placed in holder

2. A walled single-source garden of soldering tips that doesn't even exist yet instead of using commodity COTS parts

3. The fucking temperature control is fucking paywalled behind a proprietary USB power bank. What in the fuck? (And no, it is not possible to create an argument that will persuade me to think that this is an improvement. (Yes, I know that it can be programmed; this changes nothing.))

4. Expensive.

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I'll just stick with my Pinecil iron. It gets all of these things right. If it breaks (I haven't broken a soldering iron yet in over three decades of trying), I'll fix it or buy another one.

I mean: For the $250 this iFixit product costs (including the paywalled temperature control), I will be able to buy several lifetimes of worth of Pinecil irons.

Re: Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system

#113
post #109

What I'd really like somebody to do is just stick a field-replaceable 18650 or 21700 battery in the handle. If you want to get fancy, add a dial for temperature control. Webserial and such makes for a cool tech demo, but I just want portable soldering with standard field-replaceable batteries.

Is the discharge rate for an 18650 be enough for a decent soldering iron?

I normally power mine off either a power bank with PD, or a LiPo battery that I also use for drones.

Re: Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system

#114
post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where are you seeing a TRS connector? Looks like it's USB-C everywhere to me...

We use a TRS connector between the tip and the iron. And yes, it's a lot of amps! It's amazing how versatile a well designed analog connector can be.

Ah! I was looking around for one: not on the battery pack, not on the iron-to-cable connection, but didn't think about the tips.

So you can plug an unused tip into your Walkman's headphone jack for safekeeping...

Re: Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system

#115

After a quick look at the specs: Plus * 5 secs to temp. * Heat resistant, vented cap. * User can change auto idle and sleep times. Minus * Need iFixit power station or computer to change temp and other settings. * No temp indicator on the iron. No mention if the LED indicates it's reached set temp. I'd love to keep a small, lightweight, high-quality portable iron in my tool bag ready for quick repairs. It needs to he…

A ring light indicates if it's reached set temp.

Re: Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For tools that you use regularly, it is sometimes worth it to take a step back, put the cost into an absolute perspective and then just get the thing if you know that it's well-made and you use it regularly, instead of getting a cheapish, price-optimized knockoff instead (my experience). I spent over 200$ on a glorified PCB holder and some probes (PCBite), which is in hindsight one of the most useful tools I own and…

Why buy this for $250 when you get the same thing from a pinecil v2 and use it with any 20v 100w PD USB-c power pack? I'm not seeing any differentiating features.

Because I have more trust in ifixit then in pine64 to sell robust, quality tools.

And most of what you are going to overpay (?) for this is going to ifixit, which is also a plus. It's like buying merch from a band you like.

Re: Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system

#117

The 100w and heat resistant storage caps are nice, but that battery pack pricing and the lack of on-device controls makes this not an option for me. $110 cad for the soldering iron is semi-reasonable, if a bit high compared to their competitors. $342 for the iron + battery means that's a $230 battery pack, which is absolutely insane. Requiring the battery pack to be able to easily change controls means anyone doing m…

For tools that you use regularly, it is sometimes worth it to take a step back, put the cost into an absolute perspective and then just get the thing if you know that it's well-made and you use it regularly, instead of getting a cheapish, price-optimized knockoff instead (my experience). I spent over 200$ on a glorified PCB holder and some probes (PCBite), which is in hindsight one of the most useful tools I own and…

I agree, in general, and also agree with iFixit charging whatever they can for it, but $350 is pretty much what I spend on core food for the month, or 3 pairs of shoes, or 2 pairs of climbing shoes, or a plane ticket to visit my hometown periodically. It is to your point also less than the tax on a new computer, and less than each ram upgrade on a MacBook Pro, or a week-long road trip, or a mountain lift ticket. There are different ways to convince yourself it's worth it, and it may be, but it's kind of a huge jump up if you're not already soldering nearly every day. Like $350 on meals and entertainment or $350 on a soldering iron is quite clear, I need to not buy the iron and reduce my spending a bit.

Re: Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system

#118
I think this is not a bad product, just a bad price.

I agree that changing temperature is generally not done super often but I would have loved to see a ring adjustment for temperature.

Overall, compared to the competition, I am not sure how much people would be willing to pay the much higher cost just for promise of quality and high heating capacity which is not as big of a edge that iFixit seems to think in my opinion.

But I applaud the effort of trying to make something new and different in a crowded and competitive space.

Re: Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering system

#119

The 100w and heat resistant storage caps are nice, but that battery pack pricing and the lack of on-device controls makes this not an option for me. $110 cad for the soldering iron is semi-reasonable, if a bit high compared to their competitors. $342 for the iron + battery means that's a $230 battery pack, which is absolutely insane. Requiring the battery pack to be able to easily change controls means anyone doing m…

For tools that you use regularly, it is sometimes worth it to take a step back, put the cost into an absolute perspective and then just get the thing if you know that it's well-made and you use it regularly, instead of getting a cheapish, price-optimized knockoff instead (my experience). I spent over 200$ on a glorified PCB holder and some probes (PCBite), which is in hindsight one of the most useful tools I own and…

Is this for professionals?. I need the soldering iron maybe 3 times a year. I'm ok throwing 100eur for something ok/good. But not 300.
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