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Boar's Head plant posed an 'imminent threat' years before listeria outbreak

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Re: Boar's Head plant posed an 'imminent threat' years before listeria outbreak

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I wonder if the other Boars Head plants also have issues. Avoid the entire brand? What brands have better hygiene?

I avoid pork entirely. The business is outrageously cruel and dirty even by industrial farming standards.

What does pork specifically have to do with this? BH supplies all sorts of deli meat, not just pork

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#42
post #7

I wonder if the other Boars Head plants also have issues. Avoid the entire brand? What brands have better hygiene?

You can always just go to a butcher.

In order to do so, one has to have a local butcher who is still in operation.

For many, any such local butchers were driven out of business years ago by the lower cost options in the supermarkets produced by the bulk producers, so the option to "just go to a butcher" is no longer available, at any cost.

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post #7

I wonder if the other Boars Head plants also have issues. Avoid the entire brand? What brands have better hygiene?

I always thought Boars Head _was_ the premium brand.

Where I live, both of the two major supermarket chains (Publix x 3, Kroger x 3) with stores within an epsilon of my house feature Boar's Head next to their house brands. Other than the odd Food Depot there are no other grocery corp brands within probably 25 miles.

I have historically frequently bought Boar's Head meats from the deli counter because I can get them sliced prosciutto thin and they have the texture to support that. And the overall flavor experience when buried in a creatively built sandwich is "not terrible". Absolutely revolting when compared directly against handmade pastrami, ham, corned beef etc., but not bad in a sandwich.

However: in the last year I have noticed Boarshead moving more of their cured charcuterie meats into "nitrate free", which is a lie, they use celery instead, but of course that degrades the texture and flavor a bit.

So now I just buy the house brand meats when I'm slumming, and make my own pastrami, ham, and corned beef from time to time. For two olds a 5lb batch of cured meat is a lot. Like 6-12 months. But homemade charcuterie is so astoundingly good.

So no, I don't consider Boar's Head a premium brand. At least, not anymore. I smell enshittification at work.

Also, everybody should have the chance to try out real charcuterie.

Re: Boar's Head plant posed an 'imminent threat' years before listeria outbreak

#46
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can always just go to a butcher.

In order to do so, one has to have a local butcher who is still in operation. For many, any such local butchers were driven out of business years ago by the lower cost options in the supermarkets produced by the bulk producers, so the option to "just go to a butcher" is no longer available, at any cost.

I’ve never lived in a city or suburb that doesn’t have one locally. Is it a small town thing?

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Pretty scary how many people get fooled by "premium" branding. Think about what made you think that Boars Head was "premium". Was there any evidence that their meats were higher than average quality, that didn't ultimately come from the company itself? Or was it all their product positioning, price, what stores they were found in and so on (in other words, Marketing).

Compared to other brands available in the supermarket, my family finds that Boar's Head deli meats consistently taste better. There is something "cheap" that I find hard to quantify in the taste of generic grocery branded deli meats. I'm not educated enough to know what the difference is here, but I don't think the fact that Boar's Head costs more is entirely a marketing device.

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Re: Boar's Head plant posed an 'imminent threat' years before listeria outbreak

#49
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I wonder if the other Boars Head plants also have issues. Avoid the entire brand? What brands have better hygiene?

From this, and linked articles on New York Times, the suggestion is laxed food safety standards are endemic across the entire processed food industry.

It requires engagement from the employees...a culture. On this, everyone is failing. Our leaders have contorted and conflicting allegiances. Their minds are filled with numbers swelling and cash multiplying. The focus is not on delivering value for all stakeholders.

Re: Boar's Head plant posed an 'imminent threat' years before listeria outbreak

#50
Buy your food from a local farmer. It is healthier and tastes better (and doesnt support big agra corps). For everyone that thought boars head was 'premium' you'll be blown away. Even the lowest quality local farms are usually going to be better than the best industrial producers.

You can often buy a whole (or half or 1/4) animal. They will have a butcher to process the animals for you.

Search for "community supported agriculture" here is one directory[1] but there are others. There may be a co-op near you that goes farm to farm collecting food orders and delivers them to you or to a pickup spot close to you.

[1] https://www.localharvest.org/csa/

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