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Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by ronsor »

jraph wrote: post #15
jitl wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is very hard to prevent exfiltration by code that is allowed to write to the DOM in today’s browsers. There is Content Security Policy (csp) which applies to the whole page and sometimes governs scripts injected by extensions but not the extensions themselves. I would love to see browsers add a chain-of-custody to scripts and DOM nodes, so it is easy to tell which nodes were added/touched by a script, and if a scr…

Add some sort of signing process and call this Secure DOM.

No, then people will mistakenly think it is 100% secure.

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Post by zelphirkalt »

With GDPR conform cookie consent popups/banners, managing ones preferences is actually very easy. First time visiting a website just click decline and all is good. Unless of course we are talking about websites, which only pretend to be conforming, but are actually intentionally not. I say intentionally, because it is way more likely, than everyone responsible at a company having lived under a rock for the last ... what? 10 years now? ... and not actually knowing better. Nope, we have widespread shameless blatant violation of the law at our hands.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by ivann »

xnorswap wrote: post #75
ivann wrote: post #62

I like this proposal to add a "purpose" field to the cookie header. This could allow consent settings at the browser level, preventing all these pop-ups. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/httpbisa/Mp-DjtBk-sfdQ...

And they will mark all the advertising cookies as "Legitimate interest", as they've already started to do that with the confirmation prompts. The "legitimate interest" of selling you shit you don't want and selling your interests to third parties.

Would this get past the GDPR? I get the defeatism, there are powerful actors, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't try to improve the situation.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by zelphirkalt »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #76
sgc wrote: post #66

With how aggressive websites are in shoving popups down our throats for every little random thing, we need an in-browser AI bot to get rid of them appropriately. It's leaking too. I got a popup on my keyboard on my phone yesterday, and literally thought "this is too much, I wish I was dead" (I'm doing fine, just an intrusive thought :). Time to dial it back in folks. It is unbearable.

The actual problem is not the popups, it's that websites have so much spyware crap on them that you need all those warnings.

But also that the popups do not conform to what GDPR demands. Remember, rejecting everything should be the same amount of effort as accepting the settings, and by default non-functional stuff should of course be turned off. If websites followed those rules, we would have way less of a problem here.

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Post by sgc »

iwontberude wrote: post #69
sgc wrote: post #66

With how aggressive websites are in shoving popups down our throats for every little random thing, we need an in-browser AI bot to get rid of them appropriately. It's leaking too. I got a popup on my keyboard on my phone yesterday, and literally thought "this is too much, I wish I was dead" (I'm doing fine, just an intrusive thought :). Time to dial it back in folks. It is unbearable.

To those of us with ADHD this firehose of notifications and distractions feels like a deliberate attack on our agency. It does make me feel like I want to die, not because I’m depressed or suicidal generally but because I can’t imagine aging gracefully with this escalating source of entropy.

I had the thought for much the same reason. It amounts to a denial of service attack on the human psyche.

There are places with laws about advertising pollution in public spaces. That needs to extend beyond advertising to a more general set of aggressive attention grabbing features, and to our digital lives, where we spend a huge amount of our time. It's not going to self-regulate. Ironically, the ubiquitous GDPR popups sort of broke a dam that have led to popups of all sorts being forced on us all over the place.

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Post by zelphirkalt »

fuzzy_biscuit wrote: post #71
iwontberude wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To those of us with ADHD this firehose of notifications and distractions feels like a deliberate attack on our agency. It does make me feel like I want to die, not because I’m depressed or suicidal generally but because I can’t imagine aging gracefully with this escalating source of entropy.

This is precisely why I'm sidling up to the idea of an old flip phone. The deluge of "communication" that is force-injected into my eyes every day is an immense waste of my mental energy. I hate this age of attention assault.

May I suggest a well configured uBlock Origin and additionally to cut out some websites completely from your life? Doesn't solve the problem in general, but it will hopefully make you feel better. And it will make your browsing faster, because you are not loading all that crap.

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Post by account42 »

jmorenoamor wrote: post #79

We should kill cookies once and for all. Put on a scale what we gain and what we loose, and just let it sit.

Cookies are a tool, this is like saying we should ban knives because they can be used to stab people.

Login sessions is one thing that cookies solve well - we'd have to go back to session IDs in URLs with all the problems that causes.

... which also shows that cookies are not the problem because you can track users using an infinite number of different ways.

Now stricter enforcement of consent laws as well as regulating in which ways consent can be asked for, that would make sense.

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Post by account42 »

j-bos wrote: post #36

Would something like this prevent the Disney defense against wrongful death liability? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41242400

Is there even a Disney defense here? Lawyers can bring all kinds of arguments, what matters is if they are upheld. Note that in this case Disney didn't even own or operate the restaurant so it's questionable why they even are a defendant here.
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