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Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by xigoi »

bhawks wrote: post #19
creshal wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regarding 2: That's the fun part! Manual consent isn't required for functional cookies, only for marketing garbage that doesn't help you at all.

What if the goal of the site is to monetize views so it is economically viable to produce content? Then GP's point towards 'it should work better' implies it works over the long-term and not a single interaction. I find ads frustrating as well, but it is a powerful monetization strategy and that doesn't have a substitute.

Hot take: People who produce content with the goal of getting money should just do something else.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by Drakim »

alkonaut wrote: post #23

It should be called Reject-O-matic or you might get the impression that it’s ever used to consent to anything…

While you aren't wrong, somebody might get the dumb idea that "If a tool instantly rejects the consent then the user hasn't truly consciously made a rejection."

This is the flimsy excuse made not to respect the Do Not Track header. By making it so that it's a tool for expressing the user's opinion, be it negative or positive, it becomes harder to spin it as being a tool that does not actually embody the user's view.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by tcfhgj »

Elinvynia wrote: post #25
pbmonster wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It blocks some of them, usually the most basic. I also seem to remember that by not answering those prompts (and hiding them instead), you actually consent until you decline. It absolutely can't block the more advanced, sometimes multi-stage prompts Google, Youtube, and many newspapers use. Consent-o-Matic actually goes through those prompts and declines the maximum possible amount of tracking, while consenting to th…

That is false, you only consent by your explicit action - clicking "accept". If you inspect element and remove the consent popup entirely, you have not consented.

At least this the legal requirement

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Post by nicbou »

pbmonster wrote: post #22
orbisvicis wrote: post #9

I believe ublock origin blocks these via the annoyances filters, but just the popup element without setting the cookie. I haven't really looked into it.

It blocks some of them, usually the most basic. I also seem to remember that by not answering those prompts (and hiding them instead), you actually consent until you decline. It absolutely can't block the more advanced, sometimes multi-stage prompts Google, Youtube, and many newspapers use. Consent-o-Matic actually goes through those prompts and declines the maximum possible amount of tracking, while consenting to th…

It blocks pretty much all of them for me. I almost never see a cookie banner, to the point I forget that they exist, just like YouTube ads.

I sometimes forget how bad the unfiltered internet is.

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Post by nicbou »

Elinvynia wrote: post #25
pbmonster wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It blocks some of them, usually the most basic. I also seem to remember that by not answering those prompts (and hiding them instead), you actually consent until you decline. It absolutely can't block the more advanced, sometimes multi-stage prompts Google, Youtube, and many newspapers use. Consent-o-Matic actually goes through those prompts and declines the maximum possible amount of tracking, while consenting to th…

That is false, you only consent by your explicit action - clicking "accept". If you inspect element and remove the consent popup entirely, you have not consented.

Exactly. Consent is opt-in, not opt-out. That's the law.

If a website does not respect that, it probably won't respect your choices either, so you might as well block the cookie banner and all tracking scripts.

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Post by MereInterest »

Drakim wrote: post #32
alkonaut wrote: post #23

It should be called Reject-O-matic or you might get the impression that it’s ever used to consent to anything…

While you aren't wrong, somebody might get the dumb idea that "If a tool instantly rejects the consent then the user hasn't truly consciously made a rejection." This is the flimsy excuse made not to respect the Do Not Track header. By making it so that it's a tool for expressing the user's opinion, be it negative or positive, it becomes harder to spin it as being a tool that does not actually embody the user's view.

For the GDPR, that argument would fail immediately. Since the GDPR requires consent to be explicitly granted, and neither conscious rejection nor automatic rejection would constitute an explicit granting of consent, the site would not have a consent to track.

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Post by leokennis »

orbisvicis wrote: post #9

I believe ublock origin blocks these via the annoyances filters, but just the popup element without setting the cookie. I haven't really looked into it.

The issue is that some sites will not work until you made a decision in the cookie pop-up. So then I have to reload the page without blocking, reject the cookies, and then reload the page with blocking...

So for now I disabled the blocking of cookie pop-ups and I let C-O-M automatically reject cookies for me.

Re: Consent-O-Matic – automatically fills ubiquitous pop-ups with your preferences

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Post by dns_snek »

j-bos wrote: post #36

Would something like this prevent the Disney defense against wrongful death liability? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41242400

Not in this specific case, they agreed to those terms when signing up for a Disney+ account, this extension only helps with regular consent pop-ups.

What would've helped is not signing up to Disney+ and pirating all of their content instead.

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