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Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio

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Re: Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio

#31

Great idea. I wonder how long until we'd see a lot of "autogenerated" podcasts with syndicated advertising inside spamming the podcast space. Like with robovoiced videos on YT reading some scraped content.

Would you listen to an auto-generated podcast? Seems like removing the humans from the equation kind of defeats the purpose.

If it gets good enough, you wouldn't even know.

Re: Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio

#32

Great idea. I wonder how long until we'd see a lot of "autogenerated" podcasts with syndicated advertising inside spamming the podcast space. Like with robovoiced videos on YT reading some scraped content.

Would you listen to an auto-generated podcast? Seems like removing the humans from the equation kind of defeats the purpose.

Being auto-generated is not the problem. I listen to a lot of text-to-speech voiced articles and epub books now.

The problem is that filtering/searching on that massive catalog and weeding the useless stuff out.

Re: Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio

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post #12

One problem I see with this is legitimizing LLM-extracted content as canon. The realistic human speech masks the fact that the LLM might be hallucinating or highlighting the wrong parts of a book/paper as important.

We'll have to see how it holds up for general books. The books they highlighted are all very old and very famous, so the training set of whatever LLM they use definitely has a huge amount of human-written content about them, and the papers are all relatively short.

Re: Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio

#35
post #14

Cool tech. Now we know that very soon no one will be able to trust podcasts or video narration.

You shouldn’t have been trusting podcasts in the first place, Joe Rogan says plenty of false things no AI required.

Sure, but now now I – an idiot – can publish a podcast on... "Bayesian Multilevel Models," and fool almost everyone into thinking I know anything about it.

I've seen YouTubers provide tutorials on auto-creating YouTube videos and podcast episodes on niche scientific subjects, on how to build seemingly-reputable brands with zero ongoing effort. That is all totally novel. Being able to lie or be wrong before is orthogonal to the real issue: scale.

Re: Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio

#36

So podcasts are now automated, anything with a speaker or a screen is now assumed to be not human. Is this supposed to be a good thing that we want to accelerate (e/acc) towards?

I honestly don't think this is all that big. What we are seeing has been possible for more than 6 months now(?) with gpt4 and elevenlabs, its just put together in a nice little demo website and with what seems like a multi-modal model(?) trained on nytimes the daily episodes lol. And no i don't think this will gain all that much traction. We will keep valuing authentic human interaction more and more.

Re: Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio

#37
post #14

Cool tech. Now we know that very soon no one will be able to trust podcasts or video narration.

You shouldn’t have been trusting podcasts in the first place, Joe Rogan says plenty of false things no AI required.

It takes time for humans to say false things, record and edit them.

This tech can allow "content creators" to spin hundreds of podcasts with garbage simultaneously, saturating the search space with nonsense. Similar to what is already being done with text everywhere.

What makes one skeptic regarding conspiracionist ideas is access and visibility to more enlightened content. If that access gets disrupted (it already has been), many people will not be able to tell the difference, specially future generations.

Re: Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio

#38

Great idea. I wonder how long until we'd see a lot of "autogenerated" podcasts with syndicated advertising inside spamming the podcast space. Like with robovoiced videos on YT reading some scraped content.

Would you listen to an auto-generated podcast? Seems like removing the humans from the equation kind of defeats the purpose.

Depends on the what you are trying to get out of a podcast. Most of the podcasts I listen to are because I want to learn something new in an entertaining format. I'm not listening to develop parasocial relationships with the hosts, so removing that element could be a good thing for me.

Of course if you listen to podcasts because you like the parasocial aspect or the celebrity interviews, then yeah... Not really a point.

Re: Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio

#39

Great idea. I wonder how long until we'd see a lot of "autogenerated" podcasts with syndicated advertising inside spamming the podcast space. Like with robovoiced videos on YT reading some scraped content.

Would you listen to an auto-generated podcast? Seems like removing the humans from the equation kind of defeats the purpose.

Maybe not a podcast, but I've often wished I could listen to a paper or an article while on a long drive
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