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Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#71

I'm getting really tired of this "Pro" bullshit. The issue with the PlayStation 5 isn't the bloody specs, it the f-ing price. The PlayStation 5 Slim is $600 already, we don't need a $700 one (which it won't be, because that is US pricing and probably not including tax). Sony needs a $350 model, not this Pro nonsense. Who is the target audience for this?

I'd be much more impressed if they released one that was the same size as the PS2 slim; that might, maybe, come close to being worth the price.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#72

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I haven't had a disc drive in any of my PC for a decade. I bought a USB DVD reader just in case, it's somewhere collecting dust — I've never used it. Why do you want one in a console?

Used games + retailers regularly sell games for much cheaper than the online store (which is a monopoly by PS/Xbox)

I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept for people.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#73
I don't think people commenting here realize how expensive gaming GPUs have become. A top of the line RTX 4090 is upwards of $1700. A mid range card that can play the latest AAA games at a decent resolution and frame rate (say RTX 4070) is $600-700. And if you're building a PC you still need to buy everything else around the card.

Yes $700 is expensive for a console, but that's just what the market rate is now.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#74

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I don't own a modern console other than the switch. Can you play a ps5 game from optical media without having ever connected your ps5 to the internet or will some refuse to run?

On the original PS5, yes. On the PS5 refresh, no, an internet connection is required to activate the drive, whether or not it came in the box. On the Xbox One... you haven't been able to, for over a decade. On Switch... Switch is just delightful. The game cards even come with the required system updates (criticism for lack of theming or music aside, the whole OS is under 400MB, so amazing things are possible). You ca…

>On the PS5 refresh, no, an internet connection is required to activate the drive, whether or not it came in the box.

Because the disc drive and the main board are required to be paired with each other since the PS3/X360 era. People who repair PS3s (except super slims, for some reason) and PS4s need to re-pair the disc drive board with the main board (or failing both, replace both boards with one that has been already paired) every time there is drive replacement: https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Remarry_Bluray_Drive (for PS3)

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#75
post #4

It is interesting but not surprising that it’s disc-optional with no pre-installed disc drive option available. Otherwise, in terms of specs and price, I am somewhat amazed that the console market is clinging on to life at this point. The PS5/Series generation pushed me to PC and I’m really not understanding the appeal of the consoles anymore beyond the convenience of not needing to do assembly. The consoles are just…

I spend all day making computers yield to my will. I like doing this. I enjoy it. But when I'm done with my work day, it's awfully nice to sit on the couch, pick up a PS5 controller, and start playing something that requires approximately 0 maintenance.

I couldn't care less about specs. I want games to look Good Enough. PC games might look slightly nicer, or perhaps not, given the enormous variety of configurations they have to support, but not so much nicer that I'm willing to be bothered with it. I'm totally capable of building a PC and going to ridiculous lengths to optimize it. I just don't want to anymore.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#76

I'm getting really tired of this "Pro" bullshit. The issue with the PlayStation 5 isn't the bloody specs, it the f-ing price. The PlayStation 5 Slim is $600 already, we don't need a $700 one (which it won't be, because that is US pricing and probably not including tax). Sony needs a $350 model, not this Pro nonsense. Who is the target audience for this?

I thought there would be price drops with the Pro being launched. Should've seen the writing on the wall that this is just a more expensive SKU to sell alongside the existing ones.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#77
post #53

Wow, the console is effectively 25% more expensive in Europe? That's crazy. Yes, I'm aware of taxes, extended warranty and other requirements in the EU, but still. Usually, you had a simple 1:1 mapping $->EUR, which effectively is about 10% markup.

The taxes are about 20% in EU. And is included in advertised price. In us the tax is smaller and is not included in price.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#78
post #53

Wow, the console is effectively 25% more expensive in Europe? That's crazy. Yes, I'm aware of taxes, extended warranty and other requirements in the EU, but still. Usually, you had a simple 1:1 mapping $->EUR, which effectively is about 10% markup.

the euro is very weak. many different reasons for this

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#79

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I refuse to have any business with digital only purchases; for a few reasons: 1. Just like movies, you don't own anything. Revocation can occur at any time. 2. More likely than movies, you might find your game patched to add or remove content you do not want. 3. You can't give your games to the next generation. Which matters a lot when your exposure to gaming started from NES and Atari hand-me-downs. 4. Every game yo…

> If you have a large NES collection, there will be someone interested in paying for it. If you have a large Switch collection, there will be someone interested in paying for it. Well, yes for the NES. There's a limited number of cartridges made, there is no digital substitute, and the official cartridges are not being manufactured anymore. The demand for NES games is a product of their scarcity. But have you tried a…

>there is no digital substitute

Flash carts exist that can bridge your own digital ROMs to original NES systems.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

#80
post #17

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Asking this as a PC gamer who went fully digital ~15 years ago: why are optical drives such a big deal, is that because of buying/selling used games?

I refuse to have any business with digital only purchases; for a few reasons: 1. Just like movies, you don't own anything. Revocation can occur at any time. 2. More likely than movies, you might find your game patched to add or remove content you do not want. 3. You can't give your games to the next generation. Which matters a lot when your exposure to gaming started from NES and Atari hand-me-downs. 4. Every game yo…

> 1. Just like movies, you don't own anything. Revocation can occur at any time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you'll still rely on Sony's servers to get the updates that make the game playable, since it has become customary to ship games riddled with bugs to patch them afterwards (which doesn't happen with movies, yet).

And if they really want to target you specifically, they can still blacklist your console by id, unless you completely stop connecting your console to the Internet.

So, buying the physical version can only protect you against revocation in very specific cases, unless you want to limit yourself to playing the broken version that is shipped on the disc.

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