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Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by cassianoleal »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #11
jsheard wrote: post #5

$700 and it doesn't even come with an optical drive, oof. The optical upgrade kit for the digital-only PS5 Slim is $80, so the Pro is probably going to be closer to $800 in practice unless you're already all-in on digital.

The disc drive is basically useless anyway from a long-term perspective (I don't say "preservation" because that's a farcical argument); because even on the bundled versions, it requires an internet connection to "activate" it. This also needs to be repeated when a user signs out or signs in as someone else.

On the other hand, you can sell a physical copy of a game you're not interested anymore. You can potentially buy another used game for the same money you got from the sales. Keep repeating and in theory you could play infinite games for the price of 1.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

dangus wrote: post #4

It is interesting but not surprising that it’s disc-optional with no pre-installed disc drive option available. Otherwise, in terms of specs and price, I am somewhat amazed that the console market is clinging on to life at this point. The PS5/Series generation pushed me to PC and I’m really not understanding the appeal of the consoles anymore beyond the convenience of not needing to do assembly. The consoles are just…

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Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by deng »

Wow, the console is effectively 25% more expensive in Europe? That's crazy.

Yes, I'm aware of taxes, extended warranty and other requirements in the EU, but still. Usually, you had a simple 1:1 mapping $->EUR, which effectively is about 10% markup.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by davexunit »

jsheard wrote: post #5

$700 and it doesn't even come with an optical drive, oof. The optical upgrade kit for the digital-only PS5 Slim is $80, so the Pro is probably going to be closer to $800 in practice unless you're already all-in on digital.

Yeah... I was cautiously excited for the PS5 pro as I don't have a PS5 yet, but this announcement was disappointing. Long live the PS2, I say.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by pryelluw »

mrweasel wrote: post #33

I'm getting really tired of this "Pro" bullshit. The issue with the PlayStation 5 isn't the bloody specs, it the f-ing price. The PlayStation 5 Slim is $600 already, we don't need a $700 one (which it won't be, because that is US pricing and probably not including tax). Sony needs a $350 model, not this Pro nonsense. Who is the target audience for this?

Agreed. I’m still rocking the ps4 and enjoying its vast library of solid games. PS5 lacks games and is expensive.

They should have a $350 model with optical drive and one remote. Sell it on a plastic shopping bag for all I care.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by paxys »

prmoustache wrote: post #35
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I refuse to have any business with digital only purchases; for a few reasons: 1. Just like movies, you don't own anything. Revocation can occur at any time. 2. More likely than movies, you might find your game patched to add or remove content you do not want. 3. You can't give your games to the next generation. Which matters a lot when your exposure to gaming started from NES and Atari hand-me-downs. 4. Every game yo…

I don't own a modern console other than the switch. Can you play a ps5 game from optical media without having ever connected your ps5 to the internet or will some refuse to run?

Theoretically there is no problem with keeping your PS5 100% offline. It can read and play game disks perfectly fine without the internet. In practice though, plenty of games download additional content even if you have a disk, and there's no way to know in advance.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by prmoustache »

StrLght wrote: post #17
jsheard wrote: post #5

$700 and it doesn't even come with an optical drive, oof. The optical upgrade kit for the digital-only PS5 Slim is $80, so the Pro is probably going to be closer to $800 in practice unless you're already all-in on digital.

Asking this as a PC gamer who went fully digital ~15 years ago: why are optical drives such a big deal, is that because of buying/selling used games?

I don't know about optical drives but I bought ~75% of my switch games as used cartridge.

I think a lot of people would stop buying consoles if they couldn't sell the games they have finished or do not like anymore to fund the purchase of other games.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by kstrauser »

StrLght wrote: post #17
jsheard wrote: post #5

$700 and it doesn't even come with an optical drive, oof. The optical upgrade kit for the digital-only PS5 Slim is $80, so the Pro is probably going to be closer to $800 in practice unless you're already all-in on digital.

Asking this as a PC gamer who went fully digital ~15 years ago: why are optical drives such a big deal, is that because of buying/selling used games?

Sony released this tutorial years ago in response to Microsoft making it harder to share Xbox games with your friends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

That's lived in my head since.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by pier25 »

yesimahuman wrote: post #19

Beyond the exclusives, if you're willing to spend this much for a playstation why not just spend a bit more for a nice PC? I have the PS5 but barely play it since the gaming experience on PC is just better and you have a lot more selection and can upgrade it piece by piece as needed over the years, which I'm finding I rarely need to do.

I own both PC and consoles for gaming. A console still is way more convenient to play in a big tv. And HDR support is also better. Also plenty of games are terribly optimized on PC.
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