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Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by MichaelZuo »

pawelduda wrote: post #28
dangus wrote: post #4

It is interesting but not surprising that it’s disc-optional with no pre-installed disc drive option available. Otherwise, in terms of specs and price, I am somewhat amazed that the console market is clinging on to life at this point. The PS5/Series generation pushed me to PC and I’m really not understanding the appeal of the consoles anymore beyond the convenience of not needing to do assembly. The consoles are just…

And many more bluescreens/crashes/reboots from my experience. Godspeed if you aren't into tinkering and figuring out why your setup that worked yesterday is broken today. I moved from mainly PS5 to a beefy PC and the amount of troubleshooting you have to do is staggering. This kind of things never happened to me in years of playing on a console.

Yeah, gaming on a self built PC only makes sense if your time is worth ~$0.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by rcarmo »

I suppose the "Ultra" model is going to come with either the optical drive or an even better chipset...

Seriously now, at $700 and at the pace Ryzen mini-PCs (with the 780m chipset) or new Alder Lake chips (with Xe2) are evolving, by next year you'll be able to build yourself a 4K Steam box running Bazzite.

(you can already spend that much and have a very good HD, maybe even 1440p gaming experience - I have a 680m iGPU machine I stream Steam games from, and it's pretty good for 1080p)

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by deadly_penguin »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #8

i realised recently that the transition to HD made everything look and sound the same to me. unlike the distinctive eras of the 90s, 80s, 70s...so on. and now with realistic graphics, even games are starting to all look the same to me. i feel that the limitation born art and era-specific traits of the pre-HD era have been lost. i just dont feel anything looking at these new games. but then i'm not young anymore.

Lots of PS2 games look similar, too with lots of games with colour palettes being variations on the theme of brown. So I'm not sure it's a new thing, but I do get what you mean when you see the "Triple AAAAAAAAAAA" game of the day.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by sjnonweb »

yesimahuman wrote: post #19

Beyond the exclusives, if you're willing to spend this much for a playstation why not just spend a bit more for a nice PC? I have the PS5 but barely play it since the gaming experience on PC is just better and you have a lot more selection and can upgrade it piece by piece as needed over the years, which I'm finding I rarely need to do.

A similar performing 4070ti alone will cost $750, and thats just gpu. Including cpu, memory, storage it will be more than $1500.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by darkwizard42 »

nerdjon wrote: post #31

This has been such a weird generation of consoles from a price standpoint but I know a lot of that is just due to pricing of things being weird anyways. This is expensive, I am struggling to really justify it at the moment (and I have a 4090 in my PC so it isn't some thoughts about price or power or whatever). Games right now are just not really struggling. Last time around these pro consoles came out we were running…

Is this expensive because of the components or because you feel systems were priced lower in the past and this is a small upgrade?

I think for the number of hours people put into it gaming systems are actually quite cheap. You get to have them functioning for 5-10 years with 100s of hours played. On a per hour level, it provides massive amount of entertainment.

Now, if you already have a strong PC (which you allude to) and game on that, your ROI is probably going to be a lot lower.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by rcarmo »

deadly_penguin wrote: post #20

> our most advanced and innovative console hardware to date. This is a bit hyperbolic - there's no way a PS5 iteration is more innovative than the hardware in the PS3 or even 2, unless it suddenly stopped being an AMD box with a slightly funky system architecture.

That sentence (from Sony) read too much like an Apple keynote prompt.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by danudey »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #22
StrLght wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Asking this as a PC gamer who went fully digital ~15 years ago: why are optical drives such a big deal, is that because of buying/selling used games?

I refuse to have any business with digital only purchases; for a few reasons: 1. Just like movies, you don't own anything. Revocation can occur at any time. 2. More likely than movies, you might find your game patched to add or remove content you do not want. 3. You can't give your games to the next generation. Which matters a lot when your exposure to gaming started from NES and Atari hand-me-downs. 4. Every game yo…

> More likely than movies, you might find your game patched to add or remove content you do not want.

Well this is a complicated point. A lot of games these days rely on digital distribution for day-one patches, a practice which allows developers to continue working on and polishing the game even after it goes gold. Physical only really gives you the option of "no updates at all" (including no day-one patch) or "every update so far to date" (including updates you don't want).

I agree with the rest of your points, but I think that this one would be relevant only in a few extremely niche cases.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by darkwizard42 »

himinlomax wrote: post #34
pixelatedindex wrote: post #9

$700 and no disc drive? Yikes. I guess it makes sense when compared to the PS4 lineup cost wise, but usually when they launch the slims it drops the price to some degree. Doesn’t seem to be the case here.

I haven't had a disc drive in any of my PC for a decade. I bought a USB DVD reader just in case, it's somewhere collecting dust — I've never used it. Why do you want one in a console?

Used games + retailers regularly sell games for much cheaper than the online store (which is a monopoly by PS/Xbox)
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