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Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by jsheard »

StrLght wrote: post #17
jsheard wrote: post #5

$700 and it doesn't even come with an optical drive, oof. The optical upgrade kit for the digital-only PS5 Slim is $80, so the Pro is probably going to be closer to $800 in practice unless you're already all-in on digital.

Asking this as a PC gamer who went fully digital ~15 years ago: why are optical drives such a big deal, is that because of buying/selling used games?

Partly due to used games, but even when buying new it's often cheaper to buy physical than digital due to retailers undercutting each other, while the digital store strictly adheres to MSRP until the game has been out for a while.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

StrLght wrote: post #17
jsheard wrote: post #5

$700 and it doesn't even come with an optical drive, oof. The optical upgrade kit for the digital-only PS5 Slim is $80, so the Pro is probably going to be closer to $800 in practice unless you're already all-in on digital.

Asking this as a PC gamer who went fully digital ~15 years ago: why are optical drives such a big deal, is that because of buying/selling used games?

I refuse to have any business with digital only purchases; for a few reasons:

1. Just like movies, you don't own anything. Revocation can occur at any time.

2. More likely than movies, you might find your game patched to add or remove content you do not want.

3. You can't give your games to the next generation. Which matters a lot when your exposure to gaming started from NES and Atari hand-me-downs.

4. Every game you purchase is chained to just yourself. Which is actually stupidly selfish when you have a large extended family also interested in games. The Switch is a hit for borrowing back and forth from a large network of relatives and friends (and, if Nintendo's reading this and questioning the resale market - this has caused a lot of games to get bought that wouldn't have).

5. If you have a large NES collection, there will be someone interested in paying for it. If you have a large Switch collection, there will be someone interested in paying for it. Physical games have some asset value, and it can be thousands of dollars for larger collections. Digital games have zero value.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by WillAdams »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #8

i realised recently that the transition to HD made everything look and sound the same to me. unlike the distinctive eras of the 90s, 80s, 70s...so on. and now with realistic graphics, even games are starting to all look the same to me. i feel that the limitation born art and era-specific traits of the pre-HD era have been lost. i just dont feel anything looking at these new games. but then i'm not young anymore.

Well, could I interest you in a Nintendo Switch?

Switch games still have markedly diverse graphic styles (and _great_ art direction).

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by kmlx »

pawelduda wrote: post #18

A lot of people seem to be unhappy with the price? Especially if you want to have disc drive. As someone who played through many of current gen titles already, I don't see the appeal. Might be worth it still if you already own a PS5 that you can trade in. Shame there's no comparison on how PSSR differs from DLSS/FSR.

the appeal will probably come from gta6.

not sure if it helps anyone here, but: $700 is $575 in 2020 money

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by Hamuko »

StrLght wrote: post #17
jsheard wrote: post #5

$700 and it doesn't even come with an optical drive, oof. The optical upgrade kit for the digital-only PS5 Slim is $80, so the Pro is probably going to be closer to $800 in practice unless you're already all-in on digital.

Asking this as a PC gamer who went fully digital ~15 years ago: why are optical drives such a big deal, is that because of buying/selling used games?

The PlayStation Store is a monopoly on the PS5, so there's no price competition there.

I compared the prices of disc releases and digital releases on the PS5 in early 2023 and you could often get the physical disc release for cheaper than the digital:

Final Fantasy XVI (PS5): 65€ disc / 80€ digital. Hogwarts Legacy (PS5): 59€ disc / 75€ digital. Diablo IV (PS5): 70€ disc / 80€ digital. Resident Evil 4 (PS5): 60€ disc / 70€ digital.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by phonon »

jsheard wrote: post #5

$700 and it doesn't even come with an optical drive, oof. The optical upgrade kit for the digital-only PS5 Slim is $80, so the Pro is probably going to be closer to $800 in practice unless you're already all-in on digital.

Storage went up from 825 GB to 2 TB though....

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by pawelduda »

dangus wrote: post #4

It is interesting but not surprising that it’s disc-optional with no pre-installed disc drive option available. Otherwise, in terms of specs and price, I am somewhat amazed that the console market is clinging on to life at this point. The PS5/Series generation pushed me to PC and I’m really not understanding the appeal of the consoles anymore beyond the convenience of not needing to do assembly. The consoles are just…

And many more bluescreens/crashes/reboots from my experience. Godspeed if you aren't into tinkering and figuring out why your setup that worked yesterday is broken today. I moved from mainly PS5 to a beefy PC and the amount of troubleshooting you have to do is staggering. This kind of things never happened to me in years of playing on a console.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by paxys »

jsheard wrote: post #5

$700 and it doesn't even come with an optical drive, oof. The optical upgrade kit for the digital-only PS5 Slim is $80, so the Pro is probably going to be closer to $800 in practice unless you're already all-in on digital.

You are basically paying $250 extra for the GPU.

Re: Playstation 5 Pro

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Post by dangus »

talldayo wrote: post #10
Rinzler89 wrote: post #2

Will it play Concord?

0 PT compatibility, either. Guess there's still a reason to keep the PS4 around a little while longer, eh? Honestly speaking though, I don't "get" Sony like I "get" Microsoft and Nintendo's business strategy. This feels like the PS3 launch all over again, a big console with a never-before-seen price tag, with few headline features besides "graphics". It appeals to the core fanbase, and absolutely nobody else. It's li…

I’m actually amazed that it’s now Nintendo that is the only console manufacturer with a sane strategy.

Their strategy is simple: affordable portable console for the whole family with exclusive access to a wide library of acclaimed first-party titles. They essentially have zero competitors besides relatively obscure retro handhelds from China that are too difficult to use for the average person.

But Sony’s strategy is seems to be basically begging their users to ditch their PS5 for a PC. Go play our games on PC, here’s a Pro console that costs as much as a new PC or GPU upgrade.

At least Microsoft’s strategy to own a large chunk of the AAA software market makes some level of sense in a world where they see their console hardware possibly exiting the market.

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