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JQuery 1.8b1: what’s new?

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Re: JQuery 1.8b1: what’s new?

#11

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I can't imagine why you'd need jQuery on mobile in the first place? What exactly are these core features that the standard DOM apis don't give you?

I suppose you write all your code in assembly too? There's no room for going higher-level than the APIs exposed by the browser?

The DOM API is clear enough that silly abstractions like "selector engines" are unnecessary.

The C vs. Assembly argument is such a silly non-point; apples and artichokes.

Re: JQuery 1.8b1: what’s new?

#12
post #3

A lot of good changes in here. The modularity will improve usability -- particularly for sites who want the core jQuery features without all the extras. My hope is this will make it easier to use jQuery on mobile -- and more comparable to Zepto in terms of size. I remember reading somewhere that 1.8 would drop support for quirks mode in IE. Anybody know if this ended up happening? I didn't see any mention in this pos…

I can't imagine why you'd need jQuery on mobile in the first place? What exactly are these core features that the standard DOM apis don't give you?

A massive script such as jQuery does not belong on a mobile device, minified or not. Surely mobile developers would know that minimal script is best.

Re: JQuery 1.8b1: what’s new?

#14

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I can't imagine why you'd need jQuery on mobile in the first place? What exactly are these core features that the standard DOM apis don't give you?

A massive script such as jQuery does not belong on a mobile device, minified or not. Surely mobile developers would know that minimal script is best.

I browse to tons of pages on my phone every day that presumably use JQuery and work fine. We're not in the WAP days anymore.

Re: JQuery 1.8b1: what’s new?

#16

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I suppose you write all your code in assembly too? There's no room for going higher-level than the APIs exposed by the browser?

The DOM API is clear enough that silly abstractions like "selector engines" are unnecessary. The C vs. Assembly argument is such a silly non-point; apples and artichokes.

Selector engines are clearly not silly abstractions otherwise all major browsers would not have implemented querySelectorAll.

Re: JQuery 1.8b1: what’s new?

#17
post #15

"jQuery is now powering about one-half of all the major web sites on the Internet" Anybody have any data on this?

http://trends.builtwith.com/javascript/jQuery is where we get that statistic from

Wish I could access the full list, but I think that's convincing enough. Thanks for the link.

Re: JQuery 1.8b1: what’s new?

#18
post #3

A lot of good changes in here. The modularity will improve usability -- particularly for sites who want the core jQuery features without all the extras. My hope is this will make it easier to use jQuery on mobile -- and more comparable to Zepto in terms of size. I remember reading somewhere that 1.8 would drop support for quirks mode in IE. Anybody know if this ended up happening? I didn't see any mention in this pos…

jQuery never really "supported" quirks mode, the unit tests were not ever run in quirks for example. A few of the offset and dimensional tests tried to account for quirks, but we gave up on that totally in 1.8 in favor of fully supporting the CSS box-model property.

Many Quirks pages could still use jQuery 1.8 successfully if they avoid asking for dimensional measurements, but I'm not sure why developers would still use quirks since it throws IE into prehistoric mode and has serious performance impacts.

Re: JQuery 1.8b1: what’s new?

#19

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The DOM API is clear enough that silly abstractions like "selector engines" are unnecessary. The C vs. Assembly argument is such a silly non-point; apples and artichokes.

Selector engines are clearly not silly abstractions otherwise all major browsers would not have implemented querySelectorAll.

…which is a façade for the existing CSS engine. Developers clamoured for it (right or wrong), and it was implemented.

Re: JQuery 1.8b1: what’s new?

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A massive script such as jQuery does not belong on a mobile device, minified or not. Surely mobile developers would know that minimal script is best.

I browse to tons of pages on my phone every day that presumably use JQuery and work fine. We're not in the WAP days anymore.

I guess my humble iPod Touch that sputters out on bloated sites like GitHub just isn't up to snuff.

Try loading a page without script bloat and you'll see a noticeable difference.

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