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Confirmed: Reflection 70B's official API is a wrapper for Sonnet 3.5

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Re: Confirmed: Reflection 70B's official API is a wrapper for Sonnet 3.5

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It's amazing what people will do for clout. His whole reputation is ruined. What was Schumer's endgame?

That's what I'm wondering. Did he think that nobody would bother checking it? Then he was saying all that stuff about the model being "corrupted during upload" - maybe he didn't think it was going to get as much traction as it did?

I doubt it considering he’s been overselling his scam all over LinkedIn.

Re: Confirmed: Reflection 70B's official API is a wrapper for Sonnet 3.5

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Context: someone announced a Llama 3.1 70B fine tune with incredible benchmark results a few days ago. It's been a dramatic ride: - The weight releases were messed up: released Lora for Llama 3.0, claiming it was a 3.1 fine tune - Evals initially didn't meet expectations when run on released weights - The evals starting performing near/at SOTA when using a hosted endpoint - Folks are finding clever ways to see what m…

When they were using the Sonnet 3.5 API, they censored the word "Claude" and replaced "Anthropic" with "Meta", then later when people realized this, they removed it.

Also, after GPT-4o they switched to a llama checkpoint (probably 405B-inst), so now the tokenizer is in common (no more tokenization trick).

Re: Confirmed: Reflection 70B's official API is a wrapper for Sonnet 3.5

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It's amazing what people will do for clout. His whole reputation is ruined. What was Schumer's endgame?

It's also amazing that GlaiveAI will be synonymous with fraud in ML now, because an investor decided to fake some benchmarks. The founder of GlaiveAI, Sahil Chaudhary also participated in the creation of the model.

Re: Confirmed: Reflection 70B's official API is a wrapper for Sonnet 3.5

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven’t followed this story. What did he do that ruined his reputation? The story link here is broken for me.

An AI engagement farmer on twitter claimed to create a llama 3.1 fine tine, trained on "reflection" (ie internal thinking) prompting that outperformed the likes of Llama 405B and even the closed source models on benchmarks. The guy says that the model is so good because it was tuned on data generated by Glaive AI. He tells everyone he uses Glaive AI and that everyone else should use it too. Releases the model on HF,…

This is accurate, but you don't need to censor GlaiveAI. They helped create the model. They're complicit in the scam.

Re: Confirmed: Reflection 70B's official API is a wrapper for Sonnet 3.5

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An AI engagement farmer on twitter claimed to create a llama 3.1 fine tine, trained on "reflection" (ie internal thinking) prompting that outperformed the likes of Llama 405B and even the closed source models on benchmarks. The guy says that the model is so good because it was tuned on data generated by Glaive AI. He tells everyone he uses Glaive AI and that everyone else should use it too. Releases the model on HF,…

This is accurate, but you don't need to censor GlaiveAI. They helped create the model. They're complicit in the scam.

I took out Glaive so as not to give them free publicity – all I did was mess up the formatting of my comment.

And yes, you're correct. Glaive employee(s) contributed to the model uploaded on HF.

Re: Confirmed: Reflection 70B's official API is a wrapper for Sonnet 3.5

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Okay, let's think this through step by step. Isn't 'reflection thinking' a pretty well known technique in the AI prompt field? So this model was supposed to be so much better... why, exactly? It makes very little sense to me. Is it just about separating the "reflections/chain of thoughts" from the "final output" via specific tags?

Re: Confirmed: Reflection 70B's official API is a wrapper for Sonnet 3.5

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Okay, let's think this through step by step. Isn't 'reflection thinking' a pretty well known technique in the AI prompt field? So this model was supposed to be so much better... why, exactly? It makes very little sense to me. Is it just about separating the "reflections/chain of thoughts" from the "final output" via specific tags?

The problem with LLMs is that they struggle to generalize out of distribution. By training the model on a sequence of semantically tagged steps, you allow the model to stay in the training distribution for a larger amount of prompts.

I don't think it is 100% a scam, as in, his technique does improve performance, since a lot of the benefits can be replicated by a system prompt, but the wild performance claims are probably completely fabricated.

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