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Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by acuozzo »

LtWorf wrote: post #147
anal_reactor wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand what's bad about this.

That means you're a bad person.

Why? I'm not OP, but I'm honestly asking.

Is it immoral to, for instance, design a "planned city" to be as boring as possible in order to not attract thrill-seekers?

Now, mind you, I'm asking solely about design. There would be no enforcement of any kind. No "we don't want your kind here". Nothing like in the opening to First Blood.

Just boring AF. Everything closes at 8pm excluding a few bars and restaurants. Lots of playgrounds, good schools, and walking paths to attract a population of young families with children.

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by LtWorf »

acuozzo wrote: post #151
LtWorf wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That means you're a bad person.

Why? I'm not OP, but I'm honestly asking. Is it immoral to, for instance, design a "planned city" to be as boring as possible in order to not attract thrill-seekers? Now, mind you, I'm asking solely about design. There would be no enforcement of any kind. No "we don't want your kind here". Nothing like in the opening to First Blood. Just boring AF. Everything closes at 8pm excluding a few bars and restaurants. Lots o…

It's not a problem for architecture to solve, it's a problem for the society to solve.

Architects can just move those people somewhere else.

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by acuozzo »

LtWorf wrote: post #152
acuozzo wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? I'm not OP, but I'm honestly asking. Is it immoral to, for instance, design a "planned city" to be as boring as possible in order to not attract thrill-seekers? Now, mind you, I'm asking solely about design. There would be no enforcement of any kind. No "we don't want your kind here". Nothing like in the opening to First Blood. Just boring AF. Everything closes at 8pm excluding a few bars and restaurants. Lots o…

It's not a problem for architecture to solve, it's a problem for the society to solve. Architects can just move those people somewhere else.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I also don't see what's "bad" or immoral about the example I outlined above.

FWIW, it's not hypothetical. I'm more-or-less describing Columbia, MD which is wedged midway between Washington DC and Baltimore.

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by fennecbutt »

yashg wrote: post #30

Everything is becoming about ads. Ads, ads everywhere. On phone, on computer, now even car. This despite everyone knowing that consumers HATE ads. It's like companies are using ads as a ransom. Pay us more money on a regular basis else we will make your life miserable with ads and more ads.

I just hate how disgustingly time wasting and pointless they are. Modern marketing is so piss poor.

Especially on mobile, endless ads for regular apps I already have installed but mostly for shitty ripoff trash games.

I am always 0% interested in downloading it, so why the FUCK has it become de rigeur to force the ad to be shown for 30-60 seconds.

I've read into it a little and apparently even negative reaction to an ad still has a positive effect on brand recognition, but how does this apply to shitty mobile games.

Our governments are failing us by not regulating this utter bs, it's so incensing. But then again that's all smiling politicians ever do, take money under the table while the grinning general population votes for em again and again.

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by fennecbutt »

getwiththeprog wrote: post #91
n_ary wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off-topic: Eagerly waiting for the potty bowl to start playing ads depending on the chemical composition of the particular waste… it would go: “Your zinc ratio is low, have you tried blah blah? After my doctor prescribed blah blah I can focus on my life more and is more productive and …”

ad absurdum , therefore on topic.

I love this

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by chairmansteve »

fennecbutt wrote: post #155
yashg wrote: post #30

Everything is becoming about ads. Ads, ads everywhere. On phone, on computer, now even car. This despite everyone knowing that consumers HATE ads. It's like companies are using ads as a ransom. Pay us more money on a regular basis else we will make your life miserable with ads and more ads.

I just hate how disgustingly time wasting and pointless they are. Modern marketing is so piss poor. Especially on mobile, endless ads for regular apps I already have installed but mostly for shitty ripoff trash games. I am always 0% interested in downloading it, so why the FUCK has it become de rigeur to force the ad to be shown for 30-60 seconds. I've read into it a little and apparently even negative reaction to an…

Half of HN is probably working on ad tech.

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by chairmansteve »

anal_reactor wrote: post #65
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #19

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Those gas station ads are so offensive to the senses. I want so desperately for them to stop. I used to live near Cupertino, and the Valero station on De Anza and Prospect always played the local classical radio station. Driving a car is pretty tiring, and to take a break and have loud ads projected at you only adds to the stress. To instead step out of your car to modestly amplified classical music is really much be…

The problem is, 95% of people don't like classical music, they like pop, and every business is motivated to cater to as wide audience as possible.

Yeah. Only 37% of people prefer pop.

https://www.statista.com/forecasts/997214/preferred-radio-co...

Anyway, they should

1. Play the least annoying music, not the most popular.

2. Use decent speakers.

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by chairmansteve »

saagarjha wrote: post #53
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #19

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Those gas station ads are so offensive to the senses. I want so desperately for them to stop. I used to live near Cupertino, and the Valero station on De Anza and Prospect always played the local classical radio station. Driving a car is pretty tiring, and to take a break and have loud ads projected at you only adds to the stress. To instead step out of your car to modestly amplified classical music is really much be…

Yeah, until you realize why they're doing it. Hint: it's to drive away "undesirables" like roaming teenagers and homeless people.

Driving me and my money away too. It only seems to start when I insert my card, so I think you are wrong.

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by lm28469 »

franga2000 wrote: post #96
lm28469 wrote: post #45

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That's what happens when innovation is dead and you need to pay the bills: you have to make current products profitable and the easiest way is to pack them with ads

If the current products aren't profitable already, how does does the company exist? This doesn't really apply in the Ford case, but the real question is why we let companies burn money to get market share, killing existing sustanable businesses in the process? Once no competition is left, they raise prices and decrease quality, ending up with a worse product than we had before.

> If the current products aren't profitable already, how does does the company exist?

It's all propped up on future potential gains, Amazon wasn't profitable for a decade, Uber just turner (barely) profitable last year.

As long as there is hope there will be money, the problem is that the hope river is starting to run dry

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