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Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by paulryanrogers »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #89
pfdietz wrote: post #33

This reminds me of the case a British destroyer from WW1. This ship started as two Tribal class destroyers, HMS Nubian and HMS Zulu. In 1916, the first lost its bow to a torpedo (and then running aground); the second lost its stern to a mine. The admiralty decided to salvage the remains by joining them together into a new ship, dubbed HMS Zubian. https://www.twz.com/royal-navy-once-created-a-franken-ship-f...

I used to have a car like that - relative in car business specialized in buying late model cars that had one end (front or back) in good shape, and other end wrecked, and would use the two good halves to make a new car. He used a jig to get the alignment precise, and claimed it was as good as factory. The car seemed fine - there was no way to tell.

Sounds like a salvage title to me

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by watsocd »

dylan604 wrote: post #51
icegreentea2 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cruises hit a spot of: * All the fun and "not thinking" of an all-inclusive resort (though obviously only if you pay for the drink packages) on land * Generally cheaper than all inclusive resorts on mainland USA (I'm not as familiar with Europe) * Competitive on pricing with all inclusive resorts in the Caribbean/Mexico * Get to skip out on flight to the Caribbean/Mexico * Get to skip out out of the overt semi-coloni…

> Get to skip out on flight to the Caribbean/Mexico This is a strange comment, as most people still have to fly to a port city. So maybe that flight is shorter and a domestic flight, but it's still requires a flight.

There are many Americans who are terrified of flying into a foreign city. With a cruise out of Miami, they never have to step on foreign soil.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

GJim wrote: post #83
djtango wrote: post #17

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I don't much like cruises but I do really enjoy being out at sea and would be more than happy to "raw dog" (in gen z parlance) some trips out at sea.

> "raw dog" (in gen z parlance) I had to google that...... I'm afraid 'raw dogging' means something very different in Blighty!

Means the same "very different" something here in the US too... Maybe doing it in a cruise ship adds to the excitement ?

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by bluGill »

joshstrange wrote: post #36
lbriner wrote: post #16

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"Prices from $1,000" but shows the picture of the presedential suite to lure people in. "Oh yeah, $1,000 is a room next to the engine room with no window and a single bed" at which point people feel a bit embarrassed and accept that it is another $10K just to get a window. On the other hand, lots of people are returning customers so maybe there is something to be said for moving slowly across the ocean as your life e…

Ehh your life “ebbs away” no matter what you are doing. I’m neutral on cruises. I went on one with my family and had a good time but I don’t seek them out. There is something to be said for the “almost everything is included” nature of cruises. Not having to think about food and just relaxing or doing one of the many activities available is attractive. The various excursions or stops can be fun as well. It’s not for…

You could get under a 1000 if you go the inside cabin, you are only in your room to sleep anyway.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by ryandrake »

GJim wrote: post #81
msrenee wrote: post #55

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Presumably because of pressure from superiors. If they know you're in cell range and ignoring them, they'll be pissy. If you're simply unable to receive communications, that's just the way it is. It shouldn't be like that, but it is.

> If they know you're in cell range and ignoring them, they'll be pissy. Frankly, I'd be "pissy" if my superiors tried calling me when I'm on holiday and I would have no qualms informing them of that fact. But then I'm not American.

This is not an "American" thing. I'm American, and I would never, ever, ever in any known universe within the multiverse, bring my work phone with me on a vacation, let alone answer it or do work stuff. And, I would never give anyone at work my personal phone number. Strict separation of work and personal, and never the twain shall meet. We should not accept jobs that keep you on the leash even during your vacation and after working hours, unless on-call is agreed-to part of your official duties.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #56
protocolture wrote: post #4

I worked on a cruise ship below decks, once, for 3 hours, and I swore I would never take a cruise. Take the dirtiest hotel you have ever been in, and then ensure you cant leave it for days at a time. It interests me that demand is increasing but I suspect thats just good advertising.

I don't understand it either. Ted (friend of mine) called them "floating malls" and that has stuck with me.

Sounds about right, but I guess some people like malls.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by jordanb »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #78

After owning small cruising sailboats for about twenty years my wife and I did the calculation that we could sell our last boat and go on two of three cruises a year. The big cost of cruising, by the way, is not so much the ship but expensive shore excursions that sometimes take you away from the ship overnight. I get all the complaints people have against cruising but for us we have seen so much of the world in rela…

Sailing in a sailboat and being in a floating hotel are so diametrically opposed experiences that it's not even worth comparing.

It's like the difference between back-country camping and going to Animal Kingdom.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by paulryanrogers »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #60
icegreentea2 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cruises hit a spot of: * All the fun and "not thinking" of an all-inclusive resort (though obviously only if you pay for the drink packages) on land * Generally cheaper than all inclusive resorts on mainland USA (I'm not as familiar with Europe) * Competitive on pricing with all inclusive resorts in the Caribbean/Mexico * Get to skip out on flight to the Caribbean/Mexico * Get to skip out out of the overt semi-coloni…

Except, everyone is flying to Miami instead which isn't cheap. Also, until only recently, drinking was ala carte which was a massive, not included, expense. Porting in most Caribbean islands is a depressing experience as well - you get to see the predatory cruise influence on shops right at the port and are also bombarded with locals trying to exploit you (no offense to them, they're trying to make a living). If you…

While some of that rings true, I'd say it was still worth it to get off the boat and enjoy the islands. They are beautiful places with their own rich culture and history, despite the over tourism.

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Post by School-Cotton »

msrenee wrote: post #55
School-Cotton wrote: post #52

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Why not just not answer your phone while on vacation?

Presumably because of pressure from superiors. If they know you're in cell range and ignoring them, they'll be pissy. If you're simply unable to receive communications, that's just the way it is. It shouldn't be like that, but it is.

There are plenty of jobs where it’s not like that.

Of course it depends on the job, so this isn’t 100% guaranteed to be the case, but I find people who think they always have to be online are often just imagining that they have to because of anxiety, and if they just didn’t respond, nothing bad would happen to them.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by bluGill »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #78

After owning small cruising sailboats for about twenty years my wife and I did the calculation that we could sell our last boat and go on two of three cruises a year. The big cost of cruising, by the way, is not so much the ship but expensive shore excursions that sometimes take you away from the ship overnight. I get all the complaints people have against cruising but for us we have seen so much of the world in rela…

Try an alaska cruise. You are there for the views that cannot be seen from land and not the tourist traps.
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