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Re: alphaXiv: Open research discussion on top of arXiv

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hnews tries to say one positive thing challenge impossible i always love any idea for curating high iq internet community

I think curating an internet community that is open-minded and participates in good faith is extremely hard as well. Not sure which is harder.

Re: alphaXiv: Open research discussion on top of arXiv

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So you've put a fake email address on your papers? I think you're failing to understand the basics of the problem, and even the whole problem domain. Email addresses are not created/maintained for life. You can have an email address, them have your org change name and email provider switch, and not to mention that researchers leave research institutions and thus lose access to their accounts. You have multiple scen…

> You have multiple scenarios where papers can be published with authors using email addresses which they lose access to. Btw, why is it considered normal? I think it would be much better to mention an e-mail, to which you will have (more-or-less) permament access.

There’s nothing permanent in life.

Dumb example: you might have published a paper while working at a company, but years later the company went bankrupt and ceased to operate. Now somebody else is owning the domains and they will not make you the favour to give you an email address.

Notable example: Sun Microsystems. But there are many more, of course.

Or you just moved from one university to another. Or you published while on grad school and then moved somewhere else.

Re: alphaXiv: Open research discussion on top of arXiv

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So you've put a fake email address on your papers? I think you're failing to understand the basics of the problem, and even the whole problem domain. Email addresses are not created/maintained for life. You can have an email address, them have your org change name and email provider switch, and not to mention that researchers leave research institutions and thus lose access to their accounts. You have multiple scen…

> Email addresses are not created/maintained for life Then don't pretend that it is an email address. I mean, it's true that email addresses are not guaranteed to be assigned for life, but putting a fake email address on a paper is misleading.

> Then don't pretend that it is an email address.

I think you don't know what a email address is, and how they are used.

> (...) but putting a fake email address(...)

This nonsense of "fake email address" was only brought up as a baseless accusation. There is zero substance to it, and it's been used as a red herring in this discussion.

Focus on the problem: do you expect any and all email addresses you publish somewhere years ago to continue to work?

Re: alphaXiv: Open research discussion on top of arXiv

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So you've put a fake email address on your papers? I think you're failing to understand the basics of the problem, and even the whole problem domain. Email addresses are not created/maintained for life. You can have an email address, them have your org change name and email provider switch, and not to mention that researchers leave research institutions and thus lose access to their accounts. You have multiple scen…

> Email addresses are not created/maintained for life Then don't pretend that it is an email address. I mean, it's true that email addresses are not guaranteed to be assigned for life, but putting a fake email address on a paper is misleading.

Let's say that John Smith at XYZ Corp has authored a paper. The company obviously wants recognition and so they use their corporate email address "jsmith@xyz.com".

John has since moved on and is earning more at ABC Corp instead. XYZ Corp has duly reclaimed John's old email address, and John cannot receive emails at said address any longer.

This is the situation the OP is in. It was never a "fake email address". They did not literally type "first.last@org", that was an example suitable for using in their comment.

[edit: I'm actually wrong with that last statement, as it turns out. While it wasn't a fake email address, the situation is slightly more nuanced in that OP actually did say "{first}.{last}@hhi.fraunhofer.de" in the paper, as there were multiple authors who all had the same email address format - see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41479618. I still think this is a valid method, though, and it's certainly not fake. Besides, the problem I outlined sounds like it probably remains an issue even if it's not the exact problem OP is experiencing.]

Re: alphaXiv: Open research discussion on top of arXiv

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This seems like a horrible idea. I know we need an alternative to peer review but an online comment section feels like something worse than that.

Why do you feel that? I think it seems excellent. Comments will be scrutinized and sorted by the community. People can choose if they want to participate in the discussion under their own names or not. I don't know how this page organizes moderation, but I imagine there will be some kind of moderation like on most online discussion forums.

But it's a very difficult problem. Am open forum offers a platform to troll and misinformation. You could pretend that the community will be able to filter this out but I seriously doubt this project is equipt to fight against bots/fake accounts better than huge companies like twitter and facebook.

Re: alphaXiv: Open research discussion on top of arXiv

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I believe this site is missing a very important thing, direct links to the different categories with a list of papers. This is at least how I (and I believe many others) browse arXiv. I open it up in the morning, scroll through a few categories and open a few papers that look interesting to me.

I could see myself using alphaxiv for that, and then, if there's a comment section, I might even read it, and, who knows, leave a comment. But there's no way I'm going to be changing the address or going to some other site to search for papers just to see whether there are some comments.

ps: I see the extension adds a "discussion" link to arxiv, it is a pity that it is only available for Chrome.

Re: alphaXiv: Open research discussion on top of arXiv

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Hey alphaxiv, you won’t let me claim some of my preprints, because there’s no match with the email address. Which there can’t be, as we’re only listing a generic first.last@org addresses in the papers. Tried the claiming process twice, nothing happened. Not all papers are on Orcid, so that doesn’t help. I think it’ll be hard growing a discussion platform, if there’s barriers of entry like that to even populate your p…

I know you don't have a lifetime access to institutional email adress, but using a fake address is so counterproductive. You're only going to claim the paper once, and yuh ou should do it while you have access to your email. Then you update your account eith a new address.
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