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Dogs can remember names of toys years after not seeing them, study shows

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Re: Dogs can remember names of toys years after not seeing them, study shows

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Post by NicoJuicy »

switch007 wrote: post #16
petepete wrote: post #10

I've had my Labrador for 12 years, she was about 1 when we rescued her. In the first week I was walking her and passed a bus stop mainly used by school kids. There's a small wall behind it and she dashed around and emerged with half a sausage roll hanging out of her mouth. To this day, every time we pass that spot she enthusiastically pulls and goes round to inspect.

I've never understood people who say dogs are hard to train. They are SO motivated by food

Food, but play is better...

In many cases it's the owners fault, not being able to train well

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Post by KoolKat23 »

hdivider wrote: post #78
jumploops wrote: post #39

It always bothers me how little intelligence we assume of and thus ascribe to the animal kingdom. Especially to our mammalian brethren, who have many of the same underlying neurological mechanisms (though in differing quantities). Dogs have co-evolved with humans for thousands of years. Remembering names seems like a useful albeit unsurprising skill, especially when it comes to recognizing/avoiding danger. “The bear/…

Every time I encounter resistance to your points here, I feel like an alien among humans. I think it cuts so deep into people's psychology, and frequently religion. The very notion that we are not the apex of anything. And that we no longer need to eat other animals to live and be healthy. Too much to bear for many, so it frequently results in low-quality conversation, laden with emotions. The fact remains, however.…

I sadly ascribe it to education.

People are wrongly taught when they're children that as a human they're special.

Mostly it's with good intentions (encouraging ethics and responsibility), but often the message is rudimentary or lost along the way.

Re: Dogs can remember names of toys years after not seeing them, study shows

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Post by gradschoolfail »

082349872349872 wrote: post #110
gradschoolfail wrote: post #101

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Tiny nitpick: Benjamin certainly would not want to become a sociopath, but the incumbent sociopaths would doubtlessly love to promote him into their ranks, surreptitiously. Confidence in the power of power to corrupt! (Usually misplaced, thankfully, despite media) (To abuse a Ridley Scott favourite: slip a Marechal’s baton into his rucksack) [this is opposite of the Rabinovich “strategy”, which hints that YC are not…

Then again, in the universe of Benjamin/Squealer fanfic, who's to say we couldn't find the following convo? — ... Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself. — Is it possible to learn this power? — Not from a pig.

SPJ’s innovation, was to keep it bipartite and below— making sure type IIIs didnt feel like they were a higher class & everyone else was type II (Imagine an army with only NCOs and officers, but the NCOs are type IIIs) No proles (grunts) in the orgchart of a very large design agency..culturally, designers often happy to work like grunts anyway! (Painters = painters)

This trouble with the proles (app store, actual store, icloud, contractor relations, PR screwups.. ) ultimately stems from that failed pancreas transplant, so that they no longer had an IV to keep entropy in its place..

[plus maybe the programmers n ee types started to feel they werent fully designers (Bret Victor, later, pple like Lattner?)]

[Check out the wwdc videos.. the sw engineers dress like.. they havent read the canon]

https://culturology-journal.ru/en/article.php?id=309

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_maréchale

See cultural references in the less misogynistic (misandric?) en wiki

Equoid Lagniappe: the surnames 司馬 and Marshall have a common origin

>the recipes in which are infamous for reducing the population of anarchist cooks

>I then began thinking about the other aspects of the bizarre parasitic life-cycle of the unicorn

Re: Dogs can remember names of toys years after not seeing them, study shows

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Post by JansjoFromIkea »

lostlogin wrote: post #118
qwertox wrote: post #60

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I ride a lot of bike. I love it when dog owners see someone approaching on a bike, tell their dog to sit and give him a treat. These dogs will then stop when they notice a bike approaching while the owner is distracted. I am always so grateful that I say thank you to the owners. Then there are those who just don't care to train their dogs.

> Then there are those who just don't care to train their dogs. There is a worse option. The thin extending dog lead at maximum extension while walking the dog in twilight on a cycle path. What could go wrong?

I tripped over one of these in central London where it abruptly started raining heavily and the owner ran off in one direction while the dog went in another.

Got some doubts about the value of those leads in general; surely it just means the dog has no gauge at all in how far they can go in any direction?

Re: Dogs can remember names of toys years after not seeing them, study shows

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Post by grujicd »

petepete wrote: post #10

I've had my Labrador for 12 years, she was about 1 when we rescued her. In the first week I was walking her and passed a bus stop mainly used by school kids. There's a small wall behind it and she dashed around and emerged with half a sausage roll hanging out of her mouth. To this day, every time we pass that spot she enthusiastically pulls and goes round to inspect.

While this is all cute, dogs should be discouraged from eating food they find in the street! It could be poisoned. You never know whether there's someone who really hates dogs in the neighborhood, or if someone tries to solve problems with rats. Unfortunately, my friend lost a dog that way.

Re: Dogs can remember names of toys years after not seeing them, study shows

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Post by kennyadam »

grujicd wrote: post #125
petepete wrote: post #10

I've had my Labrador for 12 years, she was about 1 when we rescued her. In the first week I was walking her and passed a bus stop mainly used by school kids. There's a small wall behind it and she dashed around and emerged with half a sausage roll hanging out of her mouth. To this day, every time we pass that spot she enthusiastically pulls and goes round to inspect.

While this is all cute, dogs should be discouraged from eating food they find in the street! It could be poisoned. You never know whether there's someone who really hates dogs in the neighborhood, or if someone tries to solve problems with rats. Unfortunately, my friend lost a dog that way.

No doubt this happens, it must be so rare for someone to put out poisoned half-eaten sausage rolls with the aim of killing a random dog that finds it, I think this is perhaps a teensy bit paranoid.

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Post by ozim »

pxc wrote: post #98
SkyPuncher wrote: post #67

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Depends on the dog. I’ve trained two puppies this year. The first one was stupid easy to train. Food motivated and could be refocused in every situation with food. Picked up commands quickly. Would do training basically any time of day. Second dog just stares at me if she doesn’t want to be trained or feels the task is too hard. When she gets distracted, it doesn’t matter how high of a reward I give, she won’t take i…

One trick that is popular in my family is to rest a treat on the tip of a dog's nose, tell them to wait, count silently for a few seconds, and then give them permission to eat it. (My sister's dog does it every day after his breakfast, and I recently had the pleasure of asking him to perform this trick for me when they visited. :) Anyhow, my favorite of the dogs from my childhood was generally uninterested in what ce…

Yeah that is why I think dogs that don’t learn tricks are the smart ones not the ones who obey on the first ask.

But humans want obedient dogs not ones that have their own opinions :)

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Post by throwaway48540 »

kennyadam wrote: post #126
grujicd wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While this is all cute, dogs should be discouraged from eating food they find in the street! It could be poisoned. You never know whether there's someone who really hates dogs in the neighborhood, or if someone tries to solve problems with rats. Unfortunately, my friend lost a dog that way.

No doubt this happens, it must be so rare for someone to put out poisoned half-eaten sausage rolls with the aim of killing a random dog that finds it, I think this is perhaps a teensy bit paranoid.

It's so rare, but it actually does happen, and the people doing it actually try to conceal it like a half eaten sausage that "just fell".

But this isn't even about this particular half eaten sausage. A dog doesn't know the difference between a pristine sausage and a half eaten one, to them it's just meat. And the point is that dogs should be taught to never eat any meat on the street - because they can't think "uh, looks half eaten, probably fine".

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Post by sva_ »

rkagerer wrote: post #92
sva_ wrote: post #86

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Wolves naturally don't usually eat everyday either, we just make dogs do it because we do it.

My dog must have missed the memo. He'll come over at EXACTLY 6 o'clock (to the minute) to remind you about dinner if it hasn't yet been served. He used to do the same in the morning but eventually we reached a truce on the concept of sleeping in from time to time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning

Re: Dogs can remember names of toys years after not seeing them, study shows

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Post by sethammons »

accrual wrote: post #63
jumploops wrote: post #39

It always bothers me how little intelligence we assume of and thus ascribe to the animal kingdom. Especially to our mammalian brethren, who have many of the same underlying neurological mechanisms (though in differing quantities). Dogs have co-evolved with humans for thousands of years. Remembering names seems like a useful albeit unsurprising skill, especially when it comes to recognizing/avoiding danger. “The bear/…

I agree, I think there is a lot of intelligence around us, perhaps even in ways we don't fully see or imagine. One of the largest organisms on Earth is a mycelium network in Oregon, it's nearly 4 square miles in size. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-... Is it possible this mass of mycelium has some form of intelligence that is difficult for humans to measure? Maybe it "knows" things we can…

I think you will enjoy the documentary The Hidden Life of Trees. It talks about trees and social networks of mycelium where trees share nutrients and information on threats (ant species X attacking, start chemical defenses) and mother trees prioritize their offspring over other neighbors when sharing nutrients.

There are whole worlds to be discovered yet here on our little blue dot of a planet

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