This is great. Already loving the discussions/comments I see there.
alphaXiv: Open research discussion on top of arXiv
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#12hnews tries to say one positive thing challenge impossible i always love any idea for curating high iq internet community
There are only 4 comments so far. It seems a bit early to judge the comment section.
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#13This seems like a horrible idea. I know we need an alternative to peer review but an online comment section feels like something worse than that.
Why do you feel that? I think it seems excellent. Comments will be scrutinized and sorted by the community. People can choose if they want to participate in the discussion under their own names or not.
I don't know how this page organizes moderation, but I imagine there will be some kind of moderation like on most online discussion forums.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you've put a fake email address on your papers? As in, one that you can't receive from? Why?
> So you've put a fake email address on your papers? I think you're failing to understand the basics of the problem, and even the whole problem domain. Email addresses are not created/maintained for life. You can have an email address, them have your org change name and email provider switch, and not to mention that researchers leave research institutions and thus lose access to their accounts. You have multiple scen…
> You have multiple scenarios where papers can be published with authors using email addresses which they lose access to.
Btw, why is it considered normal? I think it would be much better to mention an e-mail, to which you will have (more-or-less) permament access.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you've put a fake email address on your papers? As in, one that you can't receive from? Why?
> So you've put a fake email address on your papers? I think you're failing to understand the basics of the problem, and even the whole problem domain. Email addresses are not created/maintained for life. You can have an email address, them have your org change name and email provider switch, and not to mention that researchers leave research institutions and thus lose access to their accounts. You have multiple scen…
> Email addresses are not created/maintained for life
Then don't pretend that it is an email address.
I mean, it's true that email addresses are not guaranteed to be assigned for life, but putting a fake email address on a paper is misleading.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> So you've put a fake email address on your papers? I think you're failing to understand the basics of the problem, and even the whole problem domain. Email addresses are not created/maintained for life. You can have an email address, them have your org change name and email provider switch, and not to mention that researchers leave research institutions and thus lose access to their accounts. You have multiple scen…
> You have multiple scenarios where papers can be published with authors using email addresses which they lose access to. Btw, why is it considered normal? I think it would be much better to mention an e-mail, to which you will have (more-or-less) permament access.
Security and affiliation purposes mostly.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
> So you've put a fake email address on your papers? I think you're failing to understand the basics of the problem, and even the whole problem domain. Email addresses are not created/maintained for life. You can have an email address, them have your org change name and email provider switch, and not to mention that researchers leave research institutions and thus lose access to their accounts. You have multiple scen…
> You have multiple scenarios where papers can be published with authors using email addresses which they lose access to. Btw, why is it considered normal? I think it would be much better to mention an e-mail, to which you will have (more-or-less) permament access.
> Btw, why is it considered normal?
What leads you to believe it isn't normal? I mean, do you have an eternal email address? Have you ever switched jobs?
Most papers are authored/co-authored by graduate students. Do you think all of them will hold onto their institutional address after they graduate? A big chunk of them will not even continue in the field.
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#18Hey alphaxiv, you won’t let me claim some of my preprints, because there’s no match with the email address. Which there can’t be, as we’re only listing a generic first.last@org addresses in the papers. Tried the claiming process twice, nothing happened. Not all papers are on Orcid, so that doesn’t help. I think it’ll be hard growing a discussion platform, if there’s barriers of entry like that to even populate your p…
So you've put a fake email address on your papers? As in, one that you can't receive from? Why?
Preprints are not required to be fully typeset and publishable. In some cases, literally "first.last@org" is used as a placeholder for email addresses (to be replaced in typesetting).
This is more like a mismatch between "fully edited open-acess papers" and "trying to use arxiv preprints as an approximation of the former".
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#19Hey alphaxiv, you won’t let me claim some of my preprints, because there’s no match with the email address. Which there can’t be, as we’re only listing a generic first.last@org addresses in the papers. Tried the claiming process twice, nothing happened. Not all papers are on Orcid, so that doesn’t help. I think it’ll be hard growing a discussion platform, if there’s barriers of entry like that to even populate your p…
Upload a new version of your paper on arxiv, this time with an email address that works.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
> So you've put a fake email address on your papers? I think you're failing to understand the basics of the problem, and even the whole problem domain. Email addresses are not created/maintained for life. You can have an email address, them have your org change name and email provider switch, and not to mention that researchers leave research institutions and thus lose access to their accounts. You have multiple scen…
> You have multiple scenarios where papers can be published with authors using email addresses which they lose access to. Btw, why is it considered normal? I think it would be much better to mention an e-mail, to which you will have (more-or-less) permament access.
Why would you expect any institution to support all email addresses of their ex-employees ad infinitum?
This would be a security nightmare for them. It is pretty normal for universities to have some sort of identity managmemt system that automatically provisions emails when you are employed there and deprovision them once you are gone.