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China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

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Re: China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

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As much as I want this to be true, I don't see anything in terms of sources, I've never heard of this site before, and the style of writing doesn't exactly make it seem very credible. I haven't tried very hard, but didn't immediately find any other sites with this news that weren't simply linking to or regurgitating this article. Losing or winning a contract this size is something you'd expect a lot of well known new…

Also, there is one thing about the title of this story that I do not understand. Why would a failed negotiation imply that "nvidia is losing face"?

Re: China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

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China is investing in Linux for one simple reason - they can have someone read the source code. A (low-level?) war is going on right now between US and China - and the battlefield are the hardware and software that runs the world. Can't read the code - then we don't trust that you aren't spying on us. Unfortunately I doubt they will extend the same rights to their citizens. On the Nvidia side, this is either the dumb…

Well, there's that, and the fact that China is notorious for reverse engineering, and basically just stealing the technology and making their own knock-offs. I don't blame Nvidia for not giving them the source code.

Re: China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

#14
post #5

As much as I want this to be true, I don't see anything in terms of sources, I've never heard of this site before, and the style of writing doesn't exactly make it seem very credible. I haven't tried very hard, but didn't immediately find any other sites with this news that weren't simply linking to or regurgitating this article. Losing or winning a contract this size is something you'd expect a lot of well known new…

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Re: China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

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China is investing in Linux for one simple reason - they can have someone read the source code. A (low-level?) war is going on right now between US and China - and the battlefield are the hardware and software that runs the world. Can't read the code - then we don't trust that you aren't spying on us. Unfortunately I doubt they will extend the same rights to their citizens. On the Nvidia side, this is either the dumb…

Well, there's that, and the fact that China is notorious for reverse engineering, and basically just stealing the technology and making their own knock-offs. I don't blame Nvidia for not giving them the source code.

Many experts have shown that hardware specs which are sufficient for writing drivers are entirely useless for making hardware, to someone already versed in the field.

Re: China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

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China is investing in Linux for one simple reason - they can have someone read the source code. A (low-level?) war is going on right now between US and China - and the battlefield are the hardware and software that runs the world. Can't read the code - then we don't trust that you aren't spying on us. Unfortunately I doubt they will extend the same rights to their citizens. On the Nvidia side, this is either the dumb…

Governments and Universities can already get access to Windows source. I think the difference is that China can write the source for Linux.

Re: China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, there's that, and the fact that China is notorious for reverse engineering, and basically just stealing the technology and making their own knock-offs. I don't blame Nvidia for not giving them the source code.

Many experts have shown that hardware specs which are sufficient for writing drivers are entirely useless for making hardware, to someone already versed in the field.

So where is my WinModem driver?

Re: China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

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China is investing in Linux for one simple reason - they can have someone read the source code. A (low-level?) war is going on right now between US and China - and the battlefield are the hardware and software that runs the world. Can't read the code - then we don't trust that you aren't spying on us. Unfortunately I doubt they will extend the same rights to their citizens. On the Nvidia side, this is either the dumb…

Microsoft provides Windows and Office source code for Chinese government since 2003 as part of Microsoft Government Security Program.

Can you compile a working system from that source?

Re: China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many experts have shown that hardware specs which are sufficient for writing drivers are entirely useless for making hardware, to someone already versed in the field.

So where is my WinModem driver?

You must have misread.

If one has enough info about nvidia hardware in order to make a driver for nvidia hardware, the same info is not enough to make your own nvidia hardware clones.

Re: China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over Linux Drivers and NRE's

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post #12
post #5

As much as I want this to be true, I don't see anything in terms of sources, I've never heard of this site before, and the style of writing doesn't exactly make it seem very credible. I haven't tried very hard, but didn't immediately find any other sites with this news that weren't simply linking to or regurgitating this article. Losing or winning a contract this size is something you'd expect a lot of well known new…

Also, there is one thing about the title of this story that I do not understand. Why would a failed negotiation imply that "nvidia is losing face"?

as far as I can understand the convoluted article, the losing face part refers to Linus' outing
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