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Tell HN: Burnout is bad to your brain, take care

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Re: Tell HN: Burnout is bad to your brain, take care

#191
Pro tip: When the mind and body feel out of sync, start with the physical.

It's natural, it's free, and it works wonders for your brain.

Whether it's gymming, running, walking, smiling, breathing, or any sport that excites you—just start and don't stop.

The key is to keep moving!

Re: Tell HN: Burnout is bad to your brain, take care

#192

Early on in my career (I was a late bloomer and already in early 30's) as a developer, I got burnt out pretty bad twice. After the second time and teetering on a third, I knew I had to do something to change what I was doing and how I managed my work load. I just focused on getting MY stuff done and that was it. I stopped taking on other's people work. I stopped taking on more work once I got my stuff done. I would d…

> I just focused on getting MY stuff done and that was it. I stopped taking on other's people work... I would do exactly what a Sprint called for...

This is my reason for burnout, opposite of your example. There's a thin balance doing more work because you enjoy, and doing it because managers are pushing you to do it. And now that I JUST do my job and what I'm asked to do, I have lost a lot of the drive that I loved about being a developer and engineer, making life kind of dull. Weird thing is that it is the job description that put me into this place, with no room for growth, and the search for new jobs has been dry, year after year of searching.

I traded my sanity for a big chunk of my life's enjoyment. That ain't great either.

Re: Tell HN: Burnout is bad to your brain, take care

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Early on in my career (I was a late bloomer and already in early 30's) as a developer, I got burnt out pretty bad twice. After the second time and teetering on a third, I knew I had to do something to change what I was doing and how I managed my work load. I just focused on getting MY stuff done and that was it. I stopped taking on other's people work. I stopped taking on more work once I got my stuff done. I would d…

Any words of encouragement to a 32 year old considering a career switch to software development? I have a CS undegrad and have been working in the industry, although in strategy roles and never as a developer.

Where do you live?

I transitioned to software development in the age of ~30 and am based in Austria, Europe. The way I did is was to work on a project in my free time, and use that to a) LEARN, b) demonstrate that I can aquire skills myself and c) can stay motivated and push through. I wanted to show that I'm worth being given a chance. It worked flawlessly, I got hired on the first try.

Just try it, what's the worst that can happen? :)

I've got the feeling good software engineers are a bit more rare here, though, and Whiteboard interviews are not a common thing either.

Re: Tell HN: Burnout is bad to your brain, take care

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not arguing that Christianity and other religions aren't misogynistic - I mean, seriously, there is a borderline unfathomable amount of serious misogynistic baggage there. However, on the point of last names, I feel the urge to point out that I personally know several , very devout and traditional, catholic couples who kept their last names in wedlock.

Yep, look at the Spanish naming system for example. It doesn't get much more Catholic than that, but they combine both partners' family names.

Sure, but traditionally only the man’s name gets passed down to children

Re: Tell HN: Burnout is bad to your brain, take care

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I wonder how much burnout is exacerbated by the fact that projects never actually end in this business? You never truly finish something. If you think you did, you are quickly disabused of that notion. You are lucky to ever feel that sense of pride in completion, and if you do, it is brief. Pride in a job well done is fleeting, if you are ever allowed to feel it at all. Yes, I'm a recovering victim of burnout, and no…

What did it for me wasn't the fact that the project had no end in sight, It was the fact that every time I made an effort to move towards that point, the boss would pull in a dickhead architect (let's call him Huy) who would then veto my entire roadmap. This happened many times, each time I felt more and more worthless; by the time I eventually left Bravura I was suicidal.

Too relatable, few things worse than a half-committed architect constantly tripping you over...

Re: Tell HN: Burnout is bad to your brain, take care

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post #188

Early on in my career (I was a late bloomer and already in early 30's) as a developer, I got burnt out pretty bad twice. After the second time and teetering on a third, I knew I had to do something to change what I was doing and how I managed my work load. I just focused on getting MY stuff done and that was it. I stopped taking on other's people work. I stopped taking on more work once I got my stuff done. I would d…

> Laptop is off for the entire weekend. I turn it back on right before my meetings on Monday. Separating my personal life from my work life with a hard delimiter was paramount. That sounds like a good philosophy for work-life balance. I sometimes work evenings or weekends, but it might be a bit different since I don’t work at a company but at a university, so my work hours are a bit flexible. I have had burnout befor…

> Regardless what’s going on, have at least one day per week when I don’t work at all (usually Saturday) and never pull all-nighters (no work after midnight);

Why are you working during the weekend and after work hours?

Re: Tell HN: Burnout is bad to your brain, take care

#198
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Also important to note – a lot of people correlate burnout strictly with overwork. You could be burned out due to overwork, sure, but you could also be burned out due to not having enough work . Or doing an average amount of work but not finding real meaning in it. Or another reason not directly related to work at all. If you aren't 100% happy with your situation, and not getting out of bed every morning with a smile…

Do people really go to work with a smile on their face?

Yes

I did it on my last job for a year at least. Good project, learning, good direction for the team, etc. (and of course "more important" things like a salary, friends, family, etc was all in balance).

It was not an easy job though, sometimes I was tired, exhausted by the end of the workday. But it felt like being tired after a good exercise session: feeling of accomplishment.

I left the job when the smile disappeared (non-technical reasons). Then I realized that the smile in question was a really important thing to me :-)

Re: Tell HN: Burnout is bad to your brain, take care

#199
Despite a lot of the other comments suggesting "easy" fixes, untreated and long-lasting depression (in general) and burnout (specifically) can have these lasting effects. These do NOT seem to be treatable without psychiatric and medical intervention - the brain has spend too much time in a depressive state, and it can't get out of it by itself. Psycho therapy alone and other usual interventions (sleep, proper nutrition, positive stimulation) simply won't help anymore.

So, advise for everyone: real (in terms of "professionally diagnosed") depression and burnout for too long (over months and years) can break you in ways you can't imagine. Treat it early.

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