Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
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Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
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Re: Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
#2Looks like a pretty solid release, very happy that Clojure is still going strong!
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#3Such a pleasure to get a boatload of new features and all my code just runs on it because of the hard work dedicated to avoid breaking changes.
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#4Lovely to see add-libs and sync-deps, aren't many (any?) reasons to close down a session at all now.
This release feels like it had a very different scope from previous releases, contains a lot of stuff, which is exciting to see! But I hope it doesn't end up like a hairball a few releases down from increase of pace or something.
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#5Looks like a pretty solid release, very happy that Clojure is still going strong!
Is it going strong? I'm evaluating it for a new project. I'm considering it together with Clara[0]. However, it does give a vibe that it's not as mainstream as it was before and that the ecosystem is more sparse than what is once was.
I'm not trying to troll. I want to choose it. It seems like a good engineering decision to me, but if it's nosediving in popularity and contributors, this might bite me back in the near future.
Re: Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
#6Looks like a pretty solid release, very happy that Clojure is still going strong!
Is it going strong? I'm evaluating it for a new project. I'm considering it together with Clara[0]. However, it does give a vibe that it's not as mainstream as it was before and that the ecosystem is more sparse than what is once was. I'm not trying to troll. I want to choose it. It seems like a good engineering decision to me, but if it's nosediving in popularity and contributors, this might bite me back in the near…
Clojure's slow, deliberate development pace confuses people. The core team takes backwards compatibility very seriously. What you see with each new Clojure release is generally improved performance, better Java interop, and a smattering of new features. This is doubly true for 1.12 which is doing quite a bit of invisible work to make interop considerably better.
So what you don't see is a constant flux of "innovation" followed by a community having to adapt to those innovations. People pull Clojure examples out of books that are 12 or more years old and they still run.
I think there's some very exciting things in the Clojure space, such as Clerk (https://github.com/nextjournal/clerk) for live notebooks, and Babashka (https://github.com/borkdude/babashka) for amazing (and amazingly fast) scripting.
Re: Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
#7Looks like a pretty solid release, very happy that Clojure is still going strong!
Is it going strong? I'm evaluating it for a new project. I'm considering it together with Clara[0]. However, it does give a vibe that it's not as mainstream as it was before and that the ecosystem is more sparse than what is once was. I'm not trying to troll. I want to choose it. It seems like a good engineering decision to me, but if it's nosediving in popularity and contributors, this might bite me back in the near…
From the last view developer surveys I've paid attention to it didn't seem like Clojure was growing much but it's definitely still large enough of an ecosystem to be a valid choice. So, depends on your definition of 'going strong'. On its merits it's definitely still a great choice, I never really thought of it as particularly mainstream.
Re: Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
#8Looks like a pretty solid release, very happy that Clojure is still going strong!
Is it going strong? I'm evaluating it for a new project. I'm considering it together with Clara[0]. However, it does give a vibe that it's not as mainstream as it was before and that the ecosystem is more sparse than what is once was. I'm not trying to troll. I want to choose it. It seems like a good engineering decision to me, but if it's nosediving in popularity and contributors, this might bite me back in the near…
I found myself frustrated a lot when I used it two years ago. A lot of abandoned libraries. There's not a huge ecosystem around it compared to golang and other popular languages, but there's probably enough that it's a viable option if you really want to work with the language.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it going strong? I'm evaluating it for a new project. I'm considering it together with Clara[0]. However, it does give a vibe that it's not as mainstream as it was before and that the ecosystem is more sparse than what is once was. I'm not trying to troll. I want to choose it. It seems like a good engineering decision to me, but if it's nosediving in popularity and contributors, this might bite me back in the near…
I found myself frustrated a lot when I used it two years ago. A lot of abandoned libraries. There's not a huge ecosystem around it compared to golang and other popular languages, but there's probably enough that it's a viable option if you really want to work with the language.
I think there is this misconception that lack of activity on libraries indicates they aren't worth using. But I strongly believe a lot of libraries are just feature complete and bug-free enough to leave them be. The syntax of the language changes so minimally that libraries don't have to change at all after updates. This isn't Javascript where everyone keeps tweaking things over and over again.
Re: Clojure 1.12.0 is now available
#10Looks like a pretty solid release, very happy that Clojure is still going strong!
Is it going strong? I'm evaluating it for a new project. I'm considering it together with Clara[0]. However, it does give a vibe that it's not as mainstream as it was before and that the ecosystem is more sparse than what is once was. I'm not trying to troll. I want to choose it. It seems like a good engineering decision to me, but if it's nosediving in popularity and contributors, this might bite me back in the near…
I'd categorize Clojure as stable but niche. It's not nosediving in popularity, but I don't think it's growing by leaps and bounds either. Many libraries are also stable, in the sense that they are finished - sometimes people will see no activity on a GitHub project and assume it is dead when in reality it's just done. Clojure libraries tend to be very small and focused, and often no Clojure wrapper is needed at all due to the ease of Java interop.
I love Clojure, and it's been great for me and all the professional teams I've worked on that use it.