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Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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I think that's pretty obvious, no? Behavioral controls. You add a web cam screenshot to that desktop screenshot and sell real attention signals to advertisers.

They already tried that with the XBox One Kinect. That one did backfire quite hard.

Just because it failed in the past doesn't mean they won't retry again and again. It only needs to succeed once.

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Even Apple and Microsoft have to deploy an army of customer support agents to deal with problems, but you expect Linux to be trouble free? I don't expect anyone capable of installing windows to have trouble with Mint, Elementary, or Fedora.

Sure, but Apple has that army of customer support agents. Maybe someone needs to create some for Linux?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linuxcare

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There is no objective difference between finding the balance of supply and demand and price gouging.

No, price gouging is taking advantage of short term manipulations in supply and demand. If this happened during the pandemic then you might have a case. However what we are seeing now are long term, permanent changes to demand due monetary inflation.

I really can't make sense of what you wrote here. "taking advantage of short term manipulations in supply and demand" - assuming by "manipulations" you just mean "changes" here (since I don't really know how someone can manipulate demand) - this is just how markets find prices in general. Maybe you mean manipulations in supply, for example a vendor holding onto products instead of selling them in order to drive up the price. But again, this is just how markets find prices: vendors refuse to sell products until buyers pay a price they find acceptable.

It remains true that this is not objectively distinguishable from price gouging. Gouging is just a word for "finding prices that I think aren't fair".

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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It is a good thing that Windows 11 is optional. Microsoft seems to insist on making it an option which is relegated way back into the catalogue in the section where hardly anyone looks but that is their prerogative just like it is mine to avoid them and their products. The times of Windows dominance are over, mostly due to the rise of web and cloud offerings which have shifted the tech nexus from the operating system to the browser.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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No, price gouging is taking advantage of short term manipulations in supply and demand. If this happened during the pandemic then you might have a case. However what we are seeing now are long term, permanent changes to demand due monetary inflation.

I really can't make sense of what you wrote here. "taking advantage of short term manipulations in supply and demand" - assuming by "manipulations" you just mean "changes" here (since I don't really know how someone can manipulate demand) - this is just how markets find prices in general. Maybe you mean manipulations in supply, for example a vendor holding onto products instead of selling them in order to drive up th…

You can manipulate demand by increasing/decreasing the supply of capital. Cheap interest rates, stimulus checks, government deficit spending, etc...

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This happened recently with price gouging disguised as inflation as well. It seems to be a common business tactic for corps at over over a certain size.

It’s not about size. Maximizing profit without losing too many customers is a major focus of business education.

The only reason I single out bigger businesses is because when you've captured a market and made it sufficiently difficult to leave, testing a max price is easy.

It's usually very difficult and risky.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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“Can’t be uninstalled” and “not optional” aren’t the same thing. This headline implies users won’t be able to prevent recall from taking screenshots of what they are doing. I don’t believe that’s true.

I'd be more comfortable with it if MS didn't have a long and well documented history of overriding user settings via patches to turn on features that users had explicitly turned off. If MS wanted people to trust them to honor settings, they shouldn't have ignored settings for decades.

Microsoft using updates as a means of reverting settings to Microsoft's preferences should be punishable by a per-instance fine.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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I'd be more comfortable with it if MS didn't have a long and well documented history of overriding user settings via patches to turn on features that users had explicitly turned off. If MS wanted people to trust them to honor settings, they shouldn't have ignored settings for decades.

settings are just preferences, and preferences change everyone knows if you want to stop something from happening you use group policy

Home doesn't have group policy IIRC, and most non-business users are going to get that version.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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GDPR lawsuit no one?

What part of GDPR does it infringe?

The P part. It's taking screenshots of your screen every few seconds.

When enabled, yes, but it makes you wonder why Microsoft is making it so you can only disable it, but not uninstall it. If you wanted to be sure it was disabled, you'd uninstall it... but you can't. I'm sure Microsoft would never enable it by default after an update.

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