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Re: Intel Honesty

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Post by colechristensen »

foobarian wrote: post #191
colechristensen wrote: post #172

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Again, this happens regularly, they don't actually work. You're advocating for local government to be a dictatorship. Private enterprise is not the same as a government with power over people and land. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telosa >Telosa is a proposed utopian planned US city conceived by American billionaire Marc Lore and announced in September 2021. https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/23/marc-andreessens-family-…

For me it's a pleasant thing to ponder, especially when faced with the above mentioned existing problems. > It's insane that people don't recognize how many people have tried before and the awful things that happen when it fails. I think it's just human nature, perhaps even more so in an engineering community. Look at how much of scientific progress follows that pattern, and even worse with the participants fully rec…

Advocating for dictatorships isn't a fun little intellectual exercise.

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Post by scarface_74 »

murderfs wrote: post #196
apercu wrote: post #173

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Does anyone truly want to live in Florida, Texas, Alabama, WV? (I left Tennessee off the list because it seems a lot to people _do_ want to live in Nashville anyway). I grew up in Texas. I've lived in 5 states and a Canadian province. My sisters house in Fort Worth is assessed a little lower than my house in WI. But her property tax is more than my property tax plus WI state income tax so.....

Florida and Texas are among the fastest growing states in the country, whereas California is losing population.

And how many of the traditional demographics of tech workers do you think want to move to Florida? It is currently my home state and I work remotely. But I’m older. I would never want to live here if my wife were younger or I thought there was any chance we wanted to become pregnant.

Re: Intel Honesty

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Post by kagakuninja »

foobarian wrote: post #123
colechristensen wrote: post #100

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>Rental housing with 3+ bedrooms (for families) is severely lacking in much of the US. Maybe fire codes are to blame. Taiwan is full of very nice new high-rise development that contains units with lots of bedrooms. Wandering around those developments and the new 3-story developments in California, the ones in Taiwan are much, much, much nicer, even from the outside. The NIMBYs should take note. And it's because of zo…

How could we get a council of a half-dozen visionaries to own a city-sized chunk of land and design a utopia, communist party-style but done right? I really think this is not possible without it being a private parcel where there aren't thousands of individual property owners in the loop for decision making.

The billionaires are trying that in California, and us peasants are quite suspicious of the deal...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Forever

Re: Intel Honesty

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Post by [deleted] »

ryandrake wrote: post #169
rowanG077 wrote: post #118

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That's not remotely saying the same thing. Just because someone could do it doesn't mean it will happen. These things require MUCH more then just the possibility of it happening. For example I could go out right now and murder someone. Doesn't mean I will do it. I'm certainly capable of it. In fact most people are in this exact situation yet there are only a tiny amount of murders happening each day compared to the p…

I don't know. I happen to believe that many, many people are capable of running and growing a successful business, and that the limiting factor (and the reason they haven't already) is access to capital, not some special personality trait or pedigree or family background or really any particular expertise. Definitely millions, probably tens of millions, and maybe even hundreds of millions of people are capable of sta…

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Re: Intel Honesty

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Post by eric-hu »

kagakuninja wrote: post #199
efitz wrote: post #156

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Anyone looking to start a new manufacturing business would be insane to consider California for any number of reasons- cost-of-living, (urban) quality of life, regulatory environment, state taxes, etc. Right now manufacturers should be considering other states. Florida, Tennessee and Texas all are income-tax-free and have business friendly regulatory climates. Several states like Alabama and West Virginia offer extre…

Texas actually has higher taxes than California, despite the lack of income tax. They make up for it in property tax AFAIK. California actually has low property taxes for many property owners, thanks to the controversial proposition 13. Desirable urban areas of California are expensive because we don't have enough housing.

> Desirable urban areas of California are expensive because we don't have enough housing.

I hear this a lot about California and other places. But I also know lots of people look to buy a 2nd, 3rd, etc property for rental income. For those homeowners, buying more property is rational because it's an investment they already understand. They can reap economy of scale benefits, even at a low multiple like 2-3 properties: water heaters, dishwashers etc become easier to maintain. The incentives are strong for homeowners to buy rental property. And they're in a stronger position to buy than renters.

My gut tells me that 7-8 of every 10 new houses built are bought with the intention to rent it out. It seems like "build more homes" will result in current property owners owning more property to rent out, and most renters will still be renters.

Re: Intel Honesty

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Post by rowanG077 »

ryandrake wrote: post #169
rowanG077 wrote: post #118

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That's not remotely saying the same thing. Just because someone could do it doesn't mean it will happen. These things require MUCH more then just the possibility of it happening. For example I could go out right now and murder someone. Doesn't mean I will do it. I'm certainly capable of it. In fact most people are in this exact situation yet there are only a tiny amount of murders happening each day compared to the p…

I don't know. I happen to believe that many, many people are capable of running and growing a successful business, and that the limiting factor (and the reason they haven't already) is access to capital, not some special personality trait or pedigree or family background or really any particular expertise. Definitely millions, probably tens of millions, and maybe even hundreds of millions of people are capable of sta…

Yes many people are capable of running and growing a succesful. business. That's not Elon though. Elon has grown and is running multiple industry leading at the same time.

Re: Intel Honesty

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Post by ajross »

ghaff wrote: post #155
ajross wrote: post #124

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The cheapest Air is $999 for a fast but pretty limited 8G device. That budget gets you a 16G Meteor Lake Chromebook which runs Debian cleanly in a VM. It's true that Apple is doing a better job than it used to in serving the budget market, but Macs remain pretty exclusive. Similarly a low end Windows laptop with WSL is a better budget choice, though IMHO very inferior to the Chromebook in Linux integration.

I'm not sure we're really disagreeing. The thing is that I don't really want a budget Chromebook (which certainly exist). I want something for travel mostly. Ended up getting a new iPad Air recently which isn't all that light but probably fits my needs best as it now has a pretty functional keyboard and can easily be used without the keyboard as an entertainment/consumption device.

Context upthread was for a development box, though. Airs are pretty limited for that, but the bigger Chromebooks do great.

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Post by scrlk »

SSLy wrote: post #185
scrlk wrote: post #120

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2019, when TSMC N7+ entered high volume manufacturing.

OK, and in Intel's fabs? They're still not on EUV, right?

Intel 4 was their first EUV process, which entered HVM in September 2023.

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Post by kagakuninja »

eric-hu wrote: post #205
kagakuninja wrote: post #199

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Texas actually has higher taxes than California, despite the lack of income tax. They make up for it in property tax AFAIK. California actually has low property taxes for many property owners, thanks to the controversial proposition 13. Desirable urban areas of California are expensive because we don't have enough housing.

> Desirable urban areas of California are expensive because we don't have enough housing. I hear this a lot about California and other places. But I also know lots of people look to buy a 2nd, 3rd, etc property for rental income. For those homeowners, buying more property is rational because it's an investment they already understand. They can reap economy of scale benefits, even at a low multiple like 2-3 properties…

Then that would result in lower cost rental units. While not what everyone wants, it would be a great improvement over the current situation. There are also ways to create tax incentives that could discourage your scenario from happening.

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Post by decafninja »

scarface_74 wrote: post #202
murderfs wrote: post #196

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Florida and Texas are among the fastest growing states in the country, whereas California is losing population.

And how many of the traditional demographics of tech workers do you think want to move to Florida? It is currently my home state and I work remotely. But I’m older. I would never want to live here if my wife were younger or I thought there was any chance we wanted to become pregnant.

I don’t know, Miami is pretty nice. The only reason I wouldn’t consider living in Miami is that if I ever got laid off, the tech job ecosystem is poor at best.

It’s not perfect but neither is SFBA, NYC, or Seattle.

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